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Hi All

 

I have a customer who wants his 2 lime trees pollarding, but they area covered by an area tpo and the TO has refused the request, even though the trees are along his boundary with the highway, and the council have recently pollarded all the street trees here.

 

Is there any justification in him pollarding, or requesting this to keeping line with the street trees, there all same age and similar size before they pollarded them.

 

Any help would be appreciated thanks

 

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On the face of it his request sounds entirely logical. Only scenario I can see where the next TO might have a point is if the other trees are old pollards being redone, or smaller trees, and the customers trees are very large, healthy, not previously pollarded. Out of the 4-6 local councils/TO's I deal with, sadly there is one TO who seems to have a habit of refusing works that I regard as appropriate, and sometimes suggesting alternative pruning which is just daft. The other TO's are fine.

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You can’t pollard mature maiden trees. If they are large and have never been pollarded then taking the tops off would be topping. Not appropriate works. If they are lapsed pollards and need doing then go to appeal. You will probably win. 
 

Re. the other works.  TPOs are administered by planning and more precisely the TO, he will like trees. The street trees are managed by highways. They won’t like trees. There are situations where councils have TPOd there own street trees to stop highways from felling them.  Along with past management that could also be a factor. 
 

Cheers

 

Chris. 

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12 minutes ago, Chris at eden said:

You can’t pollard mature maiden trees. If they are large and have never been pollarded then taking the tops off would be topping. Not appropriate works. If they are lapsed pollards and need doing then go to appeal. You will probably win. 
 

Re. the other works.  TPOs are administered by planning and more precisely the TO, he will like trees. The street trees are managed by highways. They won’t like trees. There are situations where councils have TPOd there own street trees to stop highways from felling them.  Along with past management that could also be a factor. 
 

Cheers

 

Chris. 

Yeh, they haven't been pollards before, but neither had the street trees until last year, all of similar size and age

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You could ask why the refusal. 

Earlier in the year put an application to trim limes back to old prune cuts and reduce height by 2m which was granted, then put in a norther application for same spec on different tree then got asked why 2m height reduction as it was not standard practice, this was the same TO that granted other application. 

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Thanks all

 

Some useful points, although its annoying that the council can pollard there trees, for the first time but we can not, there literally at the side of there street trees.

But thinking on, and as stated I should really advise the customer on why it might not be best for the trees in question.

 

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7 hours ago, tree77 said:

Yeh, they haven't been pollards before, but neither had the street trees until last year, all of similar size and age

In that case and assuming it is a mature large tree, it isn't pollarding.  It's topping which is bad practice.  Unless the tree is hazardous, causing damage, or has a serious impact on living conditions that outweighs the amenity then the TO is probably right and can probably defend it on appeal.  Pics would be good.  

 

The fact that highways have topped the other trees isn't relevant, the PINS wont consider that.  You could argue that they shouldn't have done it as its bad practice but you cant really use it as a justification for further works that are also bad practice. 

       

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6 hours ago, Dan Maynard said:

Top of this lime was a bowl of mush, was topped really rather than pollard so just initiated severe decay.PSX_20210725_092222.jpeg

Yeah I agree, that definitely isn't a pollard.   

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