Pond enlarging, ditches and stocking with fish.

[woodwoozles]

 

We have 30 acres horse livery paddocks.

 

The last 4 years have been spent maintaining fences and getting them to a better state or repair, replacing some. Nothing has been done with the boggy field situation yet so..

 

We're looking to improving drainage with the knock on effect to be encouraging better grazing.

 

We got a project on!

 

Before being able to dredge and clear our ditches we have to face up the Willow and to some extent fell large sections so we can have access to the ditch.

 

The ditches run across the forest and road into our property across are hedge/fence lines then off the property at the far side.

 

They haven't been touched for many years and that's probably one reason why we have multiple lakes on our fields in the wet season.

 

We also have an average 50-60ft pond that we may want to use as a Reservoir for irrigating fields in the sumer months. None of those two we have experience in doing.

 

This pond "could" be used as a fishing/spawning pond also although not sure how feasible that really is?

 

We would be digging it out much deeper and lapping? Back the sides, with a large excavator and someone who is experienced in ponds.

 

Just thought we could use the pond as source of income? And also try to use it for our dry season and put the water back on the fields.

 

Anyone have an thoughts??

 

 

 

 

[Stubby]

8 hours ago, woodwoozles said:

 

We have 30 acres horse livery paddocks.

 

The last 4 years have been spent maintaining fences and getting them to a better state or repair, replacing some. Nothing has been done with the boggy field situation yet so..

 

We're looking to improving drainage with the knock on effect to be encouraging better grazing.

 

We got a project on!

 

Before being able to dredge and clear our ditches we have to face up the Willow and to some extent fell large sections so we can have access to the ditch.

 

The ditches run across the forest and road into our property across are hedge/fence lines then off the property at the far side.

 

They haven't been touched for many years and that's probably one reason why we have multiple lakes on our fields in the wet season.

 

We also have an average 50-60ft pond that we may want to use as a Reservoir for irrigating fields in the sumer months. None of those two we have experience in doing.

 

This pond "could" be used as a fishing/spawning pond also although not sure how feasible that really is?

 

We would be digging it out much deeper and lapping? Back the sides, with a large excavator and someone who is experienced in ponds.

 

Just thought we could use the pond as source of income? And also try to use it for our dry season and put the water back on the fields.

 

Anyone have an thoughts??

 

 

 

 

I am no expert but , If you are going to use the pond water for irrigation you cant really stock it with fish , can you ? 

[Baldbloke]

 

We have 30 acres horse livery paddocks.

 

The last 4 years have been spent maintaining fences and getting them to a better state or repair, replacing some. Nothing has been done with the boggy field situation yet so..

 

We're looking to improving drainage with the knock on effect to be encouraging better grazing.

 

We got a project on!

 

Before being able to dredge and clear our ditches we have to face up the Willow and to some extent fell large sections so we can have access to the ditch.

 

The ditches run across the forest and road into our property across are hedge/fence lines then off the property at the far side.

 

They haven't been touched for many years and that's probably one reason why we have multiple lakes on our fields in the wet season.

 

We also have an average 50-60ft pond that we may want to use as a Reservoir for irrigating fields in the sumer months. None of those two we have experience in doing.

 

This pond "could" be used as a fishing/spawning pond also although not sure how feasible that really is?

 

We would be digging it out much deeper and lapping? Back the sides, with a large excavator and someone who is experienced in ponds.

 

Just thought we could use the pond as source of income? And also try to use it for our dry season and put the water back on the fields.

 

Anyone have an thoughts??

 

 

 

 

Many coarse fish will spawn in still water but trout need running water to do so. So if the pond is merely fed by ditches too small to run up it’ll either have to be Triploid Rainbows and replacement if they get taken, or a coarse fishery[emoji1303]

You’d be able to take some water to irrigate, but if you take out too much in the summer it’ll raise the remaining water temperature too high as well as leaving the fish more vulnerable to predation.

 

Also ensure there’s deep areas or you’ll have frozen and then rotten fish fingers come the spring[emoji1303]

[woodwoozles]

Hey thanks, just the info we need to start researching.

[woodwoozles]

The thought about using it for both Reservoir for irrigating and fish pond was that we'd section it off..again will need some though and research.

Either the pond or the Reservoir or both may not be a worthy investment so we want to talk around the pros and cons.

Largely money has a bit part of whether we go ahead. We should also be looking to the future for environment and also how we use the land, what the usage is and how and what services we could provide to the public.
These changes WILL we've been told by financial advisor, get the inheritance tax down.

[Baldbloke]

The thought about using it for both Reservoir for irrigating and fish pond was that we'd section it off..again will need some though and research.

 

Either the pond or the Reservoir or both may not be a worthy investment so we want to talk around the pros and cons.

 

Largely money has a bit part of whether we go ahead. We should also be looking to the future for environment and also how we use the land, what the usage is and how and what services we could provide to the public.

These changes WILL we've been told by financial advisor, get the inheritance tax down.

At present there’s quite a bit of inheritance tax you can offset if it remains as an agricultural unit.

You’d be amazed how much of a pond can be made by a good operator with an excavator in a day.

There’s nothing the taxman can do about a pond unless you diversify and start charging visitors to fish.

You may need planning permission if you enlarge the existing pond.

I’ve done a few ponds for private trout fishing and gotten away with it, but none of them impacted on neighbours. The one in my garden now features on OS maps[emoji3]

[woodwoozles]

Byypktn vklllokplllylpkg guy is
Not punllylumklkymm
But I amnylkimm
O the Lilly's the pool p
Play ill make ihuk

[nepia]

@Baldbloke I think he's talking to you from the bottom of the pond

[eggsarascal]

3 hours ago, woodwoozles said:

Byypktn vklllokplllylpkg guy is
Not punllylumklkymm
But I amnylkimm
O the Lilly's the pool p
Play ill make ihuk
 

 

24 minutes ago, nepia said:

@Baldbloke I think he's talking to you from the bottom of the pond

When I first saw it I had to check there was only four empty beer cans on the worktop.

[David Cropper]

12 minutes ago, eggsarascal said:

 

When I first saw it I had to check there was only four empty beer cans on the worktop.

Thank God! I thought it was just me!