Help needed to identify these two conifers

[Samantha Smith]

Hi I have two conifers which I need help identifying. They’re on my neighbours land and touch the boundary. Building a new house the structural engineer required confirmed details. I believe the first one may be a cupressus x  Leylandii but I’m unsure what type of Cypress the second one is  Any knowledgeable people out there able to help? Thanks in advance

[Stubby]

think the first may be Western Red Ceder ( thuja ) ?

[Mick Dempsey]

Second one is cryptomeria japonica.

[Dan Maynard]

think the first may be Western Red Ceder ( thuja ) ?

I think the sprays should be flatter for that, bit hard to see in these pics.

It would help to have bark photos of branches and stem.

[Boo Who?]

First is lawsons cypress, second Japanese cedar... that’s my vote.

[Stubby]

8 hours ago, Dan Maynard said:

I think the sprays should be flatter for that, bit hard to see in these pics.

It would help to have bark photos of branches and stem.

Yes , as you say hard to tell for sure from that pic .

[daltontrees]

2 hours ago, Stubby said:

Yes , as you say hard to tell for sure from that pic .

Have a look on Google at what Thuja cones look like and you'll never mistake it for Lawsons again. This one is a  Lawsons. Final answer.

[otter]

I agree with boo who,  but would be good see whole tree on the Cypress 

[Stubby]

57 minutes ago, daltontrees said:

Have a look on Google at what Thuja cones look like and you'll never mistake it for Lawsons again. This one is a  Lawsons. Final answer.

When they are green and immature they are very similar . I bow to your final answer however . ?

[daltontrees]

Thuja are elongate, Lawsons spherical.