Covid-19

[sime42]

Dont turn your words around? No, how about you dont makes false claims about what Ive said regarding Norway to fit your narrative. 
 
I dont keep skipping the question as why they are so low. I simply dont know. I dont understand how Covid manages to avoid transmission between a largely homogeneous Caucasian population not wearing masks in busy shopping centers and busy Ski Centers (paying attention here?) and busy restaurants here in Norway yet supposedly passes with ease in the UK. I dont have an answer to that. And its a question Ive been repeatedly asking here and its fallen on deaf ears with those who think that mask wearing is important. 
 
Why dont you tell me WHY? 
 
 

Your second paragraph hints that you don't believe the figures for Covid in the UK, the number of infections, admissions and deaths. Do you think they've been fabricated as well by SAGE or some other body?

It's common courtesy to answer questions if another person asks one of you. That extends to forums as well I believe. You had a question about Norway Vs UK. I don't know much about Norway so I can't say anything with authority but I can make a few half educated guesses.
Time is probably one of the biggest reasons why the UK cannot use the same relatively relaxed anti-covid measures. We are 12 months TOO LATE!
If we had taken the same strict approach as Norway back in February/March 2020 then maybe we could have kept the situation under control and be able to live under more relaxed restrictions. So far we have only ever been reactive rather than proactive in our pandemic response. As lots of different countries around the world have demonstrated: the harder and more rapid the initial response, (lockdown, border control, testing, track and trace etc), the sooner you can return to some semblance of normality.

There have been 65,338 positive cases in Norway at the time of writing, with 583 people now confirmed dead. There are 89 people hospitalised around the country, of which 31 are in intensive care. This is a notable improvement from the 163 hospitalised in mid-January.>>>>>>>>>
I've just copied that from here:-

Coronavirus in Norway: The Latest News on the COVID-19 Outbreak

WWW.LIFEINNORWAY.NET

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UPDATED 10 FEB: Norway's border closure to most non-residents including many foreign workers has been extended to the end of the month. Different measures are in place throughout the country. Read on for full details.

If we had stats like that then we could take the Norway approach. I'm almost certain that if Norway had stats like ours (4,038.078 cases, 117,167 deaths, 23,341 hospitalisations), then they would be imposing far, far tougher restrictions than the half arsed attempts that we've currently got in the UK.

[trigger_andy]

8 minutes ago, Scottish Cleaning Service said:

Are you really that daft? Scottish cleaning service you muppet.

Cheers. Will make for some light reading today.  

[trigger_andy]

Just now, Scottish Cleaning Service said:

If you put all your energy into something constructive you could make something of yourself like buying homes and renting them out. 😉

Or blowing £5000 on a course to trade in Stocks yet fall back on manual labour?

 

As a Window Cleaner you'd think that a company charging you £5000 for such a course would have big windows and they'd clearly see you coming? Maybe you thought they needed a clean first? 

[Tippin Alaybye]

1 hour ago, trigger_andy said:

Its the same with the Flu vaccine, it really seems to be the case that medical professionals just dont generally take it. 

 

I wonder why highly intelligent professionals in the medical field dont feel the need to take it considering the places you're most likely to catch Covid is the Hospital Wards. 

 

I'll await the responses here. Along the lines of the doctors are clearly younger and are allowing the older generation to take it first.  

I know dozens of drs and to a person they all have taken the covid vac. apathy explains the less than 100% uptake of flu, esp as in some it years when they get it wrong it is miserably ineffective. I remember it was only 10% a few years back

[trigger_andy]

Just now, Tippin Alaybye said:

I know dozens of drs and to a person they all have taken the covid vac. apathy explains the less than 100% uptake of flu, esp as in some it years when they get it wrong it is miserably ineffective. I remember it was only 10% a few years back

So your accounting is accurate but R4 is incorrect?

 

Seems like you’re in the wrong game. You should be an investigative journalist.

 

 

[sime42]

So your accounting is accurate but R4 is incorrect?
 
Seems like you’re in the wrong game. You should be an investigative journalist.
 
 

I think you'll find that the main reasons for lower CV-19 vaccine uptake by some groups, within NHS workers, care staff and public, is due to religious beliefs and more worryingly anti-vax propaganda. You seem to stray into the latter at times. You need to consider that not everyone is as strong-willed and intelligent as yourself.

Covid-19: How did a volunteer panel react when we showed them an anti-vax video?

WWW.BBC.CO.UK

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We showed eight people a viral video filled with falsehoods. Did it change their minds?

Poor common flu vaccine uptake is also an issue. Though nowhere near as serious. The flu vaccine is generally less effective as has already been pointed out so individuals not taking it doesn't have as much impact on an epidemic scale. Also, Covid-19 is a far more serious infection than normal flu, it is not the same. Contrary to your fake news and propaganda being used to downplay the pandemic.

[Johnsond]

1 hour ago, Tippin Alaybye said:

I know dozens of drs and to a person they all have taken the covid vac. apathy explains the less than 100% uptake of flu, esp as in some it years when they get it wrong it is miserably ineffective. I remember it was only 10% a few years back

Must admit I was surprised myself at the numbers in the report on the radio. R4 at about 0500 ish 

[Johnsond]

5 minutes ago, sime42 said:

I think you'll find that the main reasons for lower CV-19 vaccine uptake by some groups, within NHS workers, care staff and public, is due to religious beliefs and more worryingly anti-vax propaganda. You seem to stray into the latter at times. You need to consider that not everyone is as strong-willed and intelligent as yourself.
 

Covid-19: How did a volunteer panel react when we showed them an anti-vax video?

WWW.BBC.CO.UK

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We showed eight people a viral video filled with falsehoods. Did it change their minds?

 

Poor common flu vaccine uptake is also an issue. Though nowhere near as serious. The flu vaccine is generally less effective as has already been pointed out so individuals not taking it doesn't have as much impact on an epidemic scale. Also, Covid-19 is a far more serious infection than normal flu, it is not the same. Contrary to your fake news and propaganda being used to downplay the pandemic.

 

Drs !!! 

[Tippin Alaybye]

3 hours ago, trigger_andy said:

False equivalence at its best. 

that was exactly my point

[Tippin Alaybye]

1 hour ago, trigger_andy said:

So your accounting is accurate but R4 is incorrect?

 

Seems like you’re in the wrong game. You should be an investigative journalist.

 

 

R4 is MSM, we all know about MSM