how much is 5 cubic meters ?

[david lawrence]

hi

how is the allowable 5 cubic meters to fell per quarter without a felling licence calculated 

or more simply

in terms of an actual hedgerow tree 

small middle or large

dont expect anyone to be enforcing the rules but having a broad idea would be good

thanks

[Paul in the woods]

This any help? https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/826786/TimberVolumeCalculator.pdf

[david lawrence]

thanks for that

does it mean you only measure main trunk ?

limbs etc not included

 

[Paul in the woods]

1 hour ago, EdwardC said:

The calculator is more for plantation conifers than open grown broadleaves. Limbs are included in calculations if large enough.

Do you have a reference for that as I can't find anything. It would seem logical but I've seen it mentioned branchwood is excluded.

 

To be honest the Forestry Commission doesn't provide a simple couple of page guide. The documents and guides I found online a few years back have all been moved so any useful documents are even harder to find.

 

The link I posted was from the governments guide: https://www.gov.uk/guidance/tree-felling-licence-when-you-need-to-apply#exemptions

 

You could look at the Forest Mensuration Handbook, google FCBK039.pdf , and scan through the 280 odd pages. Page 46 of the pdf (44 of the booklet) discusses single trees.

 

Or you could ask your local woodland officer.

[Paul in the woods]

Thanks Edward, any idea what the definition of a major branch is? Anything over 8cm or is there a simple definition?

[Gary Prentice]

6 minutes ago, Paul in the woods said:

 the definition of a major branch is? Anything over 8cm or is there a simple definition?

Good luck with that, the law is still struggling to define what a tree is, let alone a major branch.

 

If it helps, an irate enforcement officer turned up on a site we were clearing. Some small trees and small coppice growth mainly. He was adamant that we should have had a felling licence and that we had exceeded 5cm. 

 

When told that if he could find a buyer, he could sell it and keep the proceeds he just left. 

[Jamie Jones]

Just for a visual aspect 5x cubic metre is roughly 5x big builders dumpy bags (the type of bags they deliver sand, stone etc from the back of a lorry)

[difflock]

8 minutes ago, Jamie Jones said:

Just for a visual aspect 5x cubic metre is roughly 5x big builders dumpy bags (the type of bags they deliver sand, stone etc from the back of a lorry)

Erm,

No it Aint!

dem bags only bes sommat like 0.9by0.9 by 0.85 to give sommat like 0.67m3 to hold 1.0t sand or stone at a nominal 1.8-2.0t/m3 

[Jamie Jones]

1 hour ago, difflock said:

Erm,

No it Aint!

dem bags only bes sommat like 0.9by0.9 by 0.85 to give sommat like 0.67m3 to hold 1.0t sand or stone at a nominal 1.8-2.0t/m3 

I would guess it depends on what builders bags you get....
Our builders/Landscape merchants have 1.2x1.2 x0.8... So not far off 1m cubed.... 
But to be pedantic ? 5-6 big builders bags or 6-7 smaller builder?

[htb]

3 minutes ago, Jamie Jones said:

I would guess it depends on what builders bags you get....
Our builders/Landscape merchants have 1.2x1.2 x0.8... So not far off 1m cubed.... 
But to be pedantic ? 5-6 big builders bags or 6-7 smaller builder?

Have you ever seen a tree looking like a builders bag?