Tracked mini loader

[josharb87]

Your client would struggle to move brash effectively with a 1,5t digger and a bucket. Likewise, you'll struggle to dig a hole with your machine so not really a comparison imo!

 

what's the transport costs?

 

£70+vat+fuel+transport sounds very fair. A touch cheap but much more and it'd perhaps start to be unattractive  - at the moment you and your machine are the cost of 2 guys, so you and the machine needs to be doing the work of 3 guys to have happy customers.

 

[Ty Korrigan]

Good grief!

 If I had this machine (in France) I'd be minimum €420+ inc vat per day owner operator.

Even my compact tractor I charge out at similar with driver.

Whatever happened to making money?

No effing way is £70 a realistic tariff but hey, your business model not mine.

  Stuart

 

[Haironyourchest]

11 hours ago, Ty Korrigan said:

Worse, I find in France, people who 'retire' early then become self employed to access the health system.

They buy machinery and then hire themselves out at fabulously unviable rates which make my bid seem unreasonable.

  Stuart

Bloody natives, workin' so damn cheap they takin' our jobs ?

[dumper]

This is the same machine with the skip fitted, what rate do you think same ,more or less

[Ty Korrigan]

18 hours ago, Haironyourchest said:

Bloody natives, workin' so damn cheap they takin' our jobs ?

Expat Brits not French. 

   Stuart

[Haironyourchest]

7 hours ago, Ty Korrigan said:

Expat Brits not French. 

   Stuart

Oh dear - well that really is bad!

[Deafhead]

On 10/10/2019 at 10:56, dumper said:

What are you charging for your tracked mini loader with bucket / grapple / forks

I have done my sums on my machine and come to £70.00 per day plus fuel at cost and transport , I think this is about right the machine replaces at least one labourer and speeds up the job. However just got a call from client saying he thinks it is steep as he can get a 1.5 tonne digger for £200 a week. I have told him they are not the same machine and do different job . I’m not in a position to tell him to shove it anyone care to share there rates for the machine 

I like the layout of the carrier rollers, taking the weight off the sprocket and idler. How many guys would it take to safely lift that panel in place? 

[dumper]

The panel is a 400kg sliding gate to lift into position is usually by a hiab, I would allow for four men minimum given the height, They are assembled in parts bottom track then the top welded on in panels, This one was hit by a car and had bent the track, its in a school so we had to take it to a safe area before we could cut or grind, these jobs are mostly done during school holidays , this one couldn’t wait.

Edited October 13, 2019 by dumper
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[doobin]

On 13/10/2019 at 11:18, dumper said:

The panel is a 400kg sliding gate to lift into position is usually by a hiab, I would allow for four men minimum given the height, They are assembled in parts bottom track then the top welded on in panels, This one was hit by a car and had bent the track, its in a school so we had to take it to a safe area before we could cut or grind, these jobs are mostly done during school holidays , this one couldn’t wait.

More like 8 men to lift it safely mate, and even then tricky as not enough room for everyone to grab hold of it! On that job it's worth whatever a hiab would cost to bring in.

 

That sounds like some pretty skilled work in a usually restricted environment. Don't take this the wrong way, but what is wrong with your buisiness model that you're not in a position to tell a particular client to shove it because he only wants to pay mini digger rates for a specialist bit of kit? Are you subbed in all the time?

[dumper]

The client gives me about a hundred and twenty thousand pounds of work a year, a new supervisor has started and is trying to make an impression,  I wanted to check my facts and figures before I started to make waves, I thought my rate was very reasonable and the replies to this thread have confirmed my thoughts I now have ammunition to reason my case