Big J on radio 4..

[briscoe]

So you have an issue with wealthy property magnates as you put it but want to go into private property development yourself?! 

[kevinjohnsonmbe]

31 minutes ago, Big J said:

You're missing the point though. The nonsense that is the market rate in the UK is driven by the ever increasing 'value' of property. People are only having to spend more on rent as they are priced out of purchasing these properties. I can afford premises at market rate, but refuse to pay it as it doesn't represent value for money. All it does is concentrate yet more wealth in the hands of a few, very rich individuals. Much more provision needs to be made for small and medium sized businesses to own their own premises instead of having to resort to renting for wealthy property magnates. 

 

I would have no problem whatsoever with a broad increase in the building of industrial and business units in the UK. We have a proud history of manufacturing which is now firmly in the past. In order to compete in a post Brexit, post Trump (trade wars) world, a little self reliance would not go amiss, as well as a broadened economy not so dependent on the service sector. 

Stone me J! Yome sounding more like a Ukipper / Brexit guru with (almost) every post ?

[AHPP]

5 hours ago, Big J said:

I fecking hate livestock. I can't imagine anything worse than being bound to your farm by a bunch of smelly, demanding, farty cows that cost you money and need daily attention. Trees are much easier

You're within your rights by now to tell people to fuck off for saying that.

[AHPP]

There are some pathetic, jealous, mean-spirited cunts on this thread. You haven't got the guts or intellect to imagine being free of the nonsense planning laws. You're getting fucked by them so you want everybody else to get fucked by them. J wants to live well and he's prepared to work for it. Why shouldn't he? Who the fuck are you to say?

I'm aware of pragmatism and of the apparent futility of trying to change something that's difficult to change but I take issue with people who are so small that they don't even dream of things being better and who try and drag other people down. You deserve serfdom.

[briscoe]

Nobody is saying J shouldnt be allowed to live well or work to better himself. However he seems to have an issue with the value of property/ land in Devon and theres not alot you can do about that. Calling people a cunt for voicing that opinion to me shows a lack of intellect and abilty to debate sensibly. 

[LeeGray]

2 hours ago, ESS said:

It used to be up to a certain square footage without full planning, not sure if that's changed.

However I doubt many farmers put buildings up just because they can, more because theres a need, like sheep housing, grain storage etc.

Permitted development rights for ag used to be 4800sq ft per two year period, not sure if that’s accurate today. It still goes to the council to make sure it’s not within 400m of a dwelling other than the farmhouse, you have say where drains discharge, etc and that is total development so might be a shed half that size then the associated hard standing around or access to.

 

I've put little sheds and hard standing in that way in the past. Sometimes it goes through and is quicker as basically they have to object or ask any questions within 28 days other times I’ve had to go full planning ap..more time, money and expense for same result in the end but at least everyone gets a say in it.

 

 

[ESS]

3 minutes ago, LeeGray said:

Permitted development rights for ag used to be 4800sq ft per two year period, not sure if that’s accurate today. It still goes to the council to make sure it’s not within 400m of a dwelling other than the farmhouse, you have say where drains discharge, etc and that is total development so might be a shed half that size then the associated hard standing around or access to.

 

I've put little sheds and hard standing in that way in the past. Sometimes it goes through and is quicker as basically they have to object or ask any questions within 28 days other times I’ve had to go full planning ap..more time, money and expense for same result in the end but at least everyone gets a say in it.

 

 

Ah ok, ..I put a steel frame up way back in the 80s at home and remember at 60x20 it was within the permitted footage. We were in national park so had to use specific roofing material to help blend in .

[ESS]

32 minutes ago, briscoe said:

Nobody is saying J shouldnt be allowed to live well or work to better himself. However he seems to have an issue with the value of property/ land in Devon and theres not alot you can do about that. Calling people a cunt for voicing that opinion to me shows a lack of intellect and abilty to debate sensibly. 

Tbh I lost interest when "dolescum" and "landscum" were getting bandied around .

[John Shutler]

1 hour ago, Big J said:

We had a yard of similar size about 15 miles outside of Edinburgh when we had the sawmill and it was £1200/month. That was fairly cheap for the area. It comprised of just under an acre of yard space and a variety of barns and covered space totalling around 700 square metres. Mostly in a terrible state of repair (to the point where the main one was impossible to keep dry in rain storms and we had to install a hefty bilge pump) and the rent went to an unscrupulous Estate whose forestry, farming and environmental policy was deplorable. 

 

You might be able to get a yard for £500/month, but that is well below what is typical. 

it depends wether you are integrated into the rural community or not

if you are i’d say it’s fairly typical 

 

[tree-fancier123]

35 minutes ago, John Shutler said:

it depends wether you are integrated into the rural community or not

if you are i’d say it’s fairly typical 

 

if you don't want to be friendly and talk to people how much extra on top of that 500 would you estimate the business rent to be?