Emissions, Global warming or a scam

[tree-fancier123]

4 hours ago, Big J said:

Then, instead of a 50% profit margin, go 25% meaning that the houses are just as affordable as the shitboxes from Persimmon. You'd have to put a covenant on them so that when resold the value can only increase by the same percentage as the overall housing market price rise. This would prevent profiteering and keep them affordable in the long term.

If a hard right party came to power with a commitment to ban immigration that would also help in the quest for houses with bigger gardens. Sure you will have some success in your area making a few nice homes, but the overall picture is bleak.

'Net migration to the UK, the difference between immigration and emigration, was estimated to be 282,000 in 2017. This is down from a peak of 336,000 in the year ending June 2016, immediately before the EU referendum'

Of course land is going up - more than an extra 2 million people here now, compared to 10 years ago.

If the politicians can't manage to cut immigration right down, then what we need is a plan to make the UK land area larger. For example a few trillion tonnes of rocks and soil from some far off land brought here on a big sailing boat and dumped around the coastline

[Echo]

6 hours ago, Big J said:

Micro-renewables have not been economically viable until extremely recently. The payback period on solar is now 6-8 years but it was the case until a few years ago that the installation cost of the panels would only be recouped at the point where the performance dropped significantly. 

 

I am not saying do not install solar panels, but I am saying that improved heat efficiency is a much more cost-effective way of conserving energy and therefore reducing the environmental footprint of the house. It's worth remembering that on average, energy usage for heating is almost 4 times higher per household than electricity usage.

 

I would strongly advise not getting me started on the absolutely terrible, unforgivably poor quality of new building in this country. It's probably my number one subject to get on my soapbox about. My wife is an architect specialising in sustainable design and consults with other architects, advising them on the topic. My grandfather was also an architect, so it's been a lifelong passion. 

 

We have an eventual plan to start a sustainable building company to (on a very local level) take on the likes of Persimmon, Barratt etc to build low cost, high-quality affordable homes for local families whose only choice at present is an overpriced shitty little rabbit hutch, which is too hot in summer, too cold in winter and so close to the neighbours that you can hear them fart. Stuff that. People need a bit of space, and I feel that there is a rising wave of hostility towards these large-scale builders who shamelessly make very almost 50% profit on every turd of a house they sell.

 

Bugger.....I got on my soapbox! ?

Good points Big J

I considered putting in slolar and even a wind mill, the powers that be only allow a certain percentage of this, before one needs to apply for planning permission, which significantly adds to the cost.

Even if I went and did it all my self, and kept below planning requirements, the cost of the electricity I would produce would make it more costly than we currently pay.

Ten years I have been doing the maths, regarding purchasing the pannels, buying the wind mill, buying the required batteries to store the electricity, the inverter and and controller / charger, back up generator to charge the system if there was no wind or solar for a short time, each year I did the calculations, I discovered the electricity from the grid was cheaper, and the price of fuel for the generator kept rising, so it looks like here is absolutely no incentive to go this route.

Sure look what is happening in the UK, firewood now has to be so dry that given the climate it will need some for of dryer to bring it up to spec, so more energy now has to be put into drying this firewood, which will call for yet more energy to be consumed, making it a futile exercise, leave the wood as is, the heat lost due to it being a bit damp in some cases would be less than the energy / heat reacquired to dry it out, and no special equipment to do this would need manufacturing at yet more cost to the environment.

 

[Big J]

31 minutes ago, tree-fancier123 said:

If a hard right party came to power with a commitment to ban immigration that would also help in the quest for houses with bigger gardens. Sure you will have some success in your area making a few nice homes, but the overall picture is bleak.

'Net migration to the UK, the difference between immigration and emigration, was estimated to be 282,000 in 2017. This is down from a peak of 336,000 in the year ending June 2016, immediately before the EU referendum'

Of course land is going up - more than an extra 2 million people here now, compared to 10 years ago.

If the politicians can't manage to cut immigration right down, then what we need is a plan to make the UK land area larger. For example a few trillion tonnes of rocks and soil from some far off land brought here on a big sailing boat and dumped around the coastline

Immigration is not the main issue when it comes to housing shortages. Dissolution of family units, resulting in more people living in smaller groups or singularly is the primary pressure on housing stock. Couple that with a burgeoning industry of buy to let and you've limited options for first time buyers.

[Big J]

And people are living longer, staying single for longer before getting hitched and there is an increasing instance of second homes in rural areas. All issued that are more significant than immigration.

[tree-fancier123]

 

27 minutes ago, Big J said:

And people are living longer, staying single for longer before getting hitched and there is an increasing instance of second homes in rural areas. All issued that are more significant than immigration.

No. And yes. 

You may call it propaganda, but article linked says 82 percent of the population increase due to immigration. People living longer adds to problem, but lets see figures.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/migration-linked-to-82-of-growth-in-the-population-t8tr99f6v

Edited April 5, 2019 by tree-fancier123

[tree-fancier123]

If the figures are right and the population increased by 6.6million between 2001 and 2016 that is a lot more rabbit hutches 

[Big J]

18 minutes ago, tree-fancier123 said:

 

No. And yes. 

You may call it propaganda, but article linked says 82 percent of the population increase due to immigration. People living longer adds to problem, but lets see figures.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/migration-linked-to-82-of-growth-in-the-population-t8tr99f6v

Yes, immigration does add to the pressure, but you're conflating it with larger issues. The changing nature of how family units are made up, as well as longer life expectancy, is a far greater strain on housing stock.

 

If there is a plus, with the ongoing demise of the high street, there will be plenty of potential new accommodation that could be converted from empty commercial lets.

[difflock]

And yet the unmarried mothers, of multiple children, are already whinging, about being accommodated, at the expense of others, in converted office blocks, they want real family homes, you know, like those bought, with the associated financial privation and suffering,  by married couples in days of yore, before they had children, this despite being a married couple.

Marcus

[tree-fancier123]

1 hour ago, Big J said:

Yes, immigration does add to the pressure, but you're conflating it with larger issues. The changing nature of how family units are made up, as well as longer life expectancy, is a far greater strain on housing stock.

The Times article I linked to says otherwise and I beleive what Migration Watch have presented. I would like to see a similar article, using national statistics and not just guesswork to illustrate your point. The sheer number of new arrivals and their offspring once settled must account for whole cities by now. Look at Birmingham for example.

[eggsarascal]

1 hour ago, difflock said:

And yet the unmarried mothers, of multiple children, are already whinging, about being accommodated, at the expense of others, in converted office blocks, they want real family homes, you know, like those bought, with the associated financial privation and suffering,  by married couples in days of yore, before they had children, this despite being a married couple.

Marcus

Give it a rest, Marcus.