Wage! How much should the going rate be?

[Mark Wileman]

2 minutes ago, inthewoods said:

Lts or Tw's?! ? 

Not the former!

[Big J]

It's like a race to the bottom. Companies trying to out quote each other for work, driving down the value of the industry and driving down the pay for the workers. Too many "arborists" coming out of college thinking they are the bees knees when it comes to tree work means a saturated market where little value is placed on quality work and the bottom line wins 4 times out of 5. 

 

Perhaps we need an Arbtalk wide living wage policy!

Edited November 18, 2018 by Big J

[Mark Wileman]

I don't understand why Tree Work is so different to the build trades, they churn out thousands of bright eyed busy tailed tradesmen every year, who charge what they got told they are worth, no questions asked!

[inthewoods]

2 minutes ago, Mark Wileman said:

Not the former!

Haha are you talking about Steve? He's told me some right stories! Think he was on 8.20 an hour, used his own kit and PC was an absolute urine taking  ? 

[dumper]

4 minutes ago, Big J said:

It's like a race to the bottom. Companies trying to out quote each other for work, driving down the value of the industry and driving down the pay for the workers. Too many "arborists" coming out of college thinking they are the bees knees when it comes to tree work means a saturated market where little value is placed on quality work and the bottom line wins 4 times out of 5. 

 

Perhaps we need an Arbtalk wide living wage policy!

Too many arborist have never been to college or school buy a pickup and a chainsaw 

[Mark Wileman]

6 minutes ago, inthewoods said:

Haha are you talking about Steve? He's told me some right stories! Think he was on 8.20 an hour, used his own kit and PC was an absolute urine taking  ? 

I've worked a bit with a guy who was dismissed from there for not using NPTC recognised cuts, ie, not step cutting everything. He's the best climber I've ever seen on the job too ?

[inthewoods]

2 minutes ago, Mark Wileman said:

I've worked a bit with a guy who was dismissed from there for not using NPTC recognised cuts, ie, not step cutting everything. He's the best climber I've ever seen on the job too ?

It's quite strange as of last week was the first time he'd undercut me on a domestic job ?  and now I'm working through his Tree surveys as part of a commercial contract and all the ones he's done himself are... Well... Have me questioning his rationale but hey, Not mine to reason why. 

[Mark Wileman]

To be honest I don't think anyone has ever been asked to do a survey and said "Nothing wrong with all these, they look fine to me!" ?

 

If you need a hand give me a shout, I'm getting pretty threaders with the same old faces around here! This close to packing it all in and re-enlisting! ?

[inthewoods]

9 minutes ago, Mark Wileman said:

To be honest I don't think anyone has ever been asked to do a survey and said "Nothing wrong with all these, they look fine to me!" ?

 

If you need a hand give me a shout, I'm getting pretty threaders with the same old faces around here! This close to packing it all in and re-enlisting! ?

 Sure but to remove as far as I could see a healthy beech with OK structure, fair enough sided off on one side and with the weight over a quiet footpath and keeping a heavily weighted ash that's close to a block of flats and it's entrance that had a group of ash removed due to die back right next to it seems odd but I'm just a contractor (atm)  

 

I'll pm you some available dates in December, will be in between Carmarthen and Llanelli if you're interested? 

[Mark Wileman]

4 minutes ago, inthewoods said:

 Sure but to remove as far as I could see a healthy beech with OK structure, fair enough sided off on one side and with the weight over a quiet footpath and keeping a heavily weighted ash that's close to a block of flats and it's entrance that had a group of ash removed due to die back right next to it seems odd but I'm just a contractor (atm)  

 

I'll pm you some available dates in December, will be in between Carmarthen and Llanelli if you're interested? 

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