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18 hours ago, Stubby said:

A dull chain is a dull chain whether its square ground , round ground or semi  . ......

The benefit is Semi Chisel dulls far, far more slowly, especially in dirty conditions. Having said that, semi chisel will still cut when it is dull, unlike full chisel, and definitely not like a square chain. Once the chisel bits lose that tip - they are worthless. Semi chisel has no tip to lose. I use it unless I am working forestry where there's no nails, wire, or dirt, etc. I find it saves me more time in sharpening than it adds to cutting.  I can often bring the edge back with a single stroke of a file, and I am back cutting. If the tip hits anything in the wood - it still keeps cutting. This is because it does not use the tip alone to cut. It uses the full top of the cutter.  That entire top plate has to go rather dull for it to stop cutting, whereas with a chisel chain it need only lose some sharpness in the tip.

 

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22 minutes ago, wyk said:

The benefit is Semi Chisel dulls far, far more slowly, especially in dirty conditions. Having said that, semi chisel will still cut when it is dull, unlike full chisel, and definitely not like a square chain. Once the chisel bits lose that tip - they are worthless. Semi chisel has no tip to lose. I use it unless I am working forestry where there's no nails, wire, or dirt, etc. I find it saves me more time in sharpening than it adds to cutting.  I can often bring the edge back with a single stroke of a file, and I am back cutting. If the tip hits anything in the wood - it still keeps cutting. This is because it does not use the tip alone to cut. It uses the full top of the cutter.  That entire top plate has to go rather dull for it to stop cutting, whereas with a chisel chain it need only lose some sharpness in the tip.

 

  understand what you say , been cutting a long time ( 65 now ) and have heard those arguments before .  Used all kinds of chain . Still think you are kidding yourself a bit regards semi . Just me .

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3 hours ago, Stubby said:

  understand what you say , been cutting a long time ( 65 now ) and have heard those arguments before .  Used all kinds of chain . Still think you are kidding yourself a bit regards semi . Just me .

 

If you understood what I said, you wouldn't be kidding yourself, would you? ;)

 

Fortunately, I am not 65. But I have been cutting trees for over 30 years. From production falling in Oregon using square chisel skip chain on big bars and ported 94cc saws, to the stuff that passes for logging in the UK, to making firewood with very dirty hedge oaks in Waterford, Ireland. I'm sharing my experience as well. We'll just have to disagree, I guess. Again for the record - chisel for clean wood, semi for dirty is all I said.

 

WYK

 

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37 minutes ago, wyk said:

Fortunately, I am not 65. But I have been cutting trees for over 30 years. From production falling in Oregon using square chisel skip chain on big bars and ported 94cc saws, to the stuff that passes for logging in the UK, to making firewood with very dirty hedge oaks in Waterford, Ireland. I'm sharing my experience as well.

Well I'm a couple of years older than Stubby and don't consider myself much of an expert on the subject, having only worked with saws in England; in the days of ground skidding in the woods we used chisel chain on 60cc saws, at the stacking area we used semi chisel chain on an 80cc saw with a 15" bar, I consider we had good reason for this. Much the same reason sawmills got to prefer forwarded timber.

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1 hour ago, wyk said:

 

If you understood what I said, you wouldn't be kidding yourself, would you? ;)

 

Fortunately, I am not 65. But I have been cutting trees for over 30 years. From production falling in Oregon using square chisel skip chain on big bars and ported 94cc saws, to the stuff that passes for logging in the UK, to making firewood with very dirty hedge oaks in Waterford, Ireland. I'm sharing my experience as well. We'll just have to disagree, I guess. Again for the record - chisel for clean wood, semi for dirty is all I said.

 

WYK

 

Ok Wes . I defer to you bud :D  .

Posted
17 hours ago, Stubby said:

Ok Wes . I defer to you bud :D  .

I really should apologise. I was rude. I can't even blame the drink. I guess I am getting old and grumpy! But what are forums for if not to war over petty things?

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6 minutes ago, wyk said:

I really should apologise. I was rude. I can't even blame the drink. I guess I am getting old and grumpy! But what are forums for if not to war over petty things?

No need bud . We cool ! :D

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Yes Eddy, just wondering what you have done to it.

Ask Spude to muffer mode both the 562 xp and the 550xp.
He did a good job and sent it to me in Holland.
You feel the difference react fastster . Little bit louder .
Retuned the autotune and is oke

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