Qualifications for MEWP

[stihlmadasever]

I was under the impression a non trained person can go up in a bucket with a ipaf trained individual.

We do it regularly...

Im unsure of the legalities though

[billpierce]

I was under the impression a non trained person can go up in a bucket with a ipaf trained individual.
We do it regularly...
Im unsure of the legalities though

I may be incorrect but does it fall under the " competent person" thing like use of chai saw etc. Qual not essential, but the easiest way of prooving competence.

Few hours and a few videos of best mewp fails ever 2018 with a trainer makes you competent to dismantle a tree from a mewp. Hmmmm?

[Cheesy pete]

47 minutes ago, stihlmadasever said:

I was under the impression a non trained person can go up in a bucket with a ipaf trained individual.

We do it regularly...

Im unsure of the legalities though

this is true i'm doing it tomorrow for a multinational company 

they provide the mewp and the Mewp operator .... I  provide the saw operator (me )

both are as it says competent  in there roles  I won't be operating the Mewp and he  won't be operating the chainsaw

Edited September 16, 2018 by Cheesy pete
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[AHPP]

I may be incorrect but does it fall under the " competent person" thing like use of chai saw etc. Qual not essential, but the easiest way of prooving competence.

Few hours and a few videos of best mewp fails ever 2018 with a trainer makes you competent to dismantle a tree from a mewp. Hmmmm?

I think you’re right but Lust4life says otherwise. I hope he educates us.

[stihlmadasever]

1 hour ago, billpierce said:

I may be incorrect but does it fall under the " competent person" thing like use of chai saw etc. Qual not essential, but the easiest way of prooving competence.

Few hours and a few videos of best mewp fails ever 2018 with a trainer makes you competent to dismantle a tree from a mewp. Hmmmm?

Dont quite understand what your getting at there bill.

My point is one person(ipaf ticket) does the mewp controls other guy

(non ticketed) uses the chainsaw...

If your a climber but dont have a mewp ticket id say your more than safe to dismantle a tree from a bucket,just dont press any buttons

 

[openspaceman]

2 hours ago, Cheesy pete said:

I won't be operating the Mewp and he  won't be operating the chainsaw

...and he will be 5 metres from you and out of the riskzone of your saw.

[Cheesy pete]

18 hours ago, openspaceman said:

...and he will be 5 metres from you and out of the riskzone of your saw.

that's an interesting thing your saying , out of the risk zone (as I understand it ) yes

 5 metres away?  never heard this as a rule  or I've forgotten it could you reference where this is?

just on a side note i'm pretty sure 99% of tree workers are breaking this  5 metres rule thing on every job they have ever done 

[openspaceman]

6 minutes ago, Cheesy pete said:

that's an interesting thing your saying , out of the risk zone (as I understand it ) yes

 5 metres away?  never heard this as a rule  or I've forgotten it could you reference where this is?

just on a side note i'm pretty sure 99% of tree workers are breaking this  5 metres rule thing on every job they have ever done 

State the appropriate safe working distances from
other operators during cross-cutting:
 five metres or twice the length of the product,
whichever is greater
 Not Met X

 

So you failed your Level 2 Award in Cross-cut Timber Using a Chainsaw?

 

Of course this doesn't matter till one of the guys,  I'll call him Simon to embarass him, tries to help a lady trainee out and reaches  out to grab the falling branch. Off work for several weeks  but as the employer, the LA, doesn't fill out the RIDDOR form no expensive fines imposed and Simon keeps his job and full pay whie recuperating.
 

[Cheesy pete]

well   your spot on  .

but i could argue that's on the ground and not in the air !?

seriously though with being  in the air and your saw being on a lanyard and it being impossible for the chainsaw to travel 5 metres then this surely does not count ? ( I'm assuming it's the saw  traveling that far from kick back  and not the timber suddenly throwing it's self  5 metres  that their  worried about )

but some safe distance is appropiate  ,my lanyard is about a metre plus the saw length ....... even then the Mewp operator is too close .

Interesting issue I have ! 

 

and yes I failed my cross cutting but carried on with other higher  qualifications  and got away with it ?