Clients that make you go hmmmmm.

[Mark Bolam]

You’ve only got yourself to blame Stu.

Due diligence at pricing stage?

 

You’ve ignored the basics covered on a very recent thread.

[Ty Korrigan]

9 minutes ago, Mick Dempsey said:

More fool you for not establishing a price before driving 90 minutes.

How?

What fool quotes for 10 days work from a few images?

 

[Ty Korrigan]

1 minute ago, Mark Bolam said:

You’ve only got yourself to blame Stu.

Due diligence at pricing stage?

 

You’ve ignored the basics covered on a very recent thread.

What thread is that?

 

 

[Mick Dempsey]

2 minutes ago, Ty Korrigan said:

What thread is that?

 

 

The underpricing thread.

 

4 minutes ago, Ty Korrigan said:

How?

What fool quotes for 10 days work from a few images?

 

You say to them

‘I charge €xxxxx per day for my team, is that out of your range or are we there or thereabouts?’

[Ty Korrigan]

Just now, Mick Dempsey said:

The underpricing thread.

 

You say to them

‘I charge €xxxxx per day for my team, is that out of your range or are we there or thereabouts?’

I'velong found that Brits here focus only on day rate not what you bring to the job or can achieve.

This is confirmed by reading any ex-pat FB group on life in France.

They will then look for the lowest day rate and as I'm far more than the 'day rate' of several other Brits working here I'd likely be laughed at for quoting telephone figures, something a British mill owner actually did respond.

A face to face meeting is far more likely to secure the work and avoid any under pricing issues.

To be fair, I have successfully quoted for single or lone trees by images alone but a quote of the size I was faced with requires more than a telephone figure banded over the telephone.

I have not seriously underpriced a single job in long time now, preffering to price high and lose than fill my agenda with conifer flavoured headaches.

 

[Mark Bolam]

I totally agree that a job like that needs visiting before committing a price mate, but a bit more info would have saved you the trip.

[Joe Newton]

It's one of those funny things. You can't blame anyone else for it, it's up to you.

 

If you want to go visit then you've got to accept losing a day to quote. If you're not bothered about getting it then give the bloke a day rate and perhaps an estimate of days based on the info provided.

 

I don't understand why you would feel hard done by.

[Ty Korrigan]

8 hours ago, Joe Newton said:

It's one of those funny things. You can't blame anyone else for it, it's up to you.

 

If you want to go visit then you've got to accept losing a day to quote. If you're not bothered about getting it then give the bloke a day rate and perhaps an estimate of days based on the info provided.

 

I don't understand why you would feel hard done by.

Jeepers, you people are making more if it than I.

I went there not expecting to win it as the client is British.

Throwing out your day rate without a solid indication of what can be achieved is both lazy and bizzare.

If that tactic actually worked then none of us would need to leave the house to quote at all.

       

 

[Hodge]

Jeepers, you people are making more if it than I.
I went there not expecting to win it as the client is British.
Throwing out your day rate without a solid indication of what can be achieved is both lazy and bizzare.
If that tactic actually worked then none of us would need to leave the house to quote at all.
       
 

But are you not complaining because you didn't get the job? Yet you went not expecting to get it?? Why go at all.....[emoji848][emoji848]

[Ty Korrigan]

12 minutes ago, Hodge said:

But are you not complaining because you didn't get the job? Yet you went not expecting to get it?? Why go at all.....

If you bothered to read my post, it is because although I don't win many British clients, the ones I do are generally larger jobs making it worthwhile pursuing.

My point, seemingly lost for my usual band of critics, is that the client is equating tree work rates from 15 years ago to todays, for pines which have grown significantly since.