Potus ???

[Johnsond]

7 hours ago, Mark J said:

You know what Dave. You come across as a proper toddler. 

😂😂😂Now now Mark. 

I often see the grammar police ( or indeed people being called out by certain wallpapers for using the edit facility) at work on here and don’t really pay it much attention but for SP I can make an exception. 
Trumpy 

Besty

Edity 😞🤷‍♂️

Talking of childish antics. 
 

Edited 17 hours ago by Johnsond

[peds]

 

Ho ho ho!

 

RFK Jr. says vaccines are 'most effective way' to prevent measles

WWW.STATNEWS.COM

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Health secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. said Sunday that "the most effective way to prevent the spread of measles...

 

WASHINGTON — Health secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. said Sunday that “the most effective way to prevent the spread of measles is the MMR vaccine,” his most direct statement yet on the issue, following the death of a second child of the condition in the outbreak in West Texas. 

 

Kennedy, who has long described the vaccine as dangerous, has largely avoided endorsing its use since the start of the outbreak, and he stopped short of explicitly saying he “recommended” it in his latest remarks, as public health officials have called on him to do.

[GarethM]

4 minutes ago, peds said:

 

Ho ho ho!

 

RFK Jr. says vaccines are 'most effective way' to prevent measles

WWW.STATNEWS.COM

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Health secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. said Sunday that "the most effective way to prevent the spread of measles...

 

WASHINGTON — Health secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. said Sunday that “the most effective way to prevent the spread of measles is the MMR vaccine,” his most direct statement yet on the issue, following the death of a second child of the condition in the outbreak in West Texas. 

 

Kennedy, who has long described the vaccine as dangerous, has largely avoided endorsing its use since the start of the outbreak, and he stopped short of explicitly saying he “recommended” it in his latest remarks, as public health officials have called on him to do.

More early morning sh1t posting again!.

 

If you had an ounce of common sense, he's been pretty open about vaccines being a good thing.

 

What he's always been critical about is knee jerk implementation without long testing or the whole convid ones based around new mRNA as they're very different to just teaching your immune system to recognise.

 

Plus the over use of vaccines in children something like 30 odd in the USA.

[Steven P]

mRNA was discussed at length in the Covid thread, they aren't a new method, been around for years (if memory serves me, might be wrong, 1960s 1970s?) however have been more expensive to produce than others, the preference was cheaper methods.

 

For speed of production though they are quicker which is where they came to the front in the Covid vaccines where speed was the primary factor. For anything 'new' the conspiracy theorists come out the wardrobe, in this respect RFK has never been shy to show his proper mental side.

 

RFK has had a vocal anti-vaccine stance, indeed blaming the MMR jab to cause autism and learning difficulties (most recently google thinks in 2023)(it doesn't). His comments a few weeks ago was this outbreak is 'nothing unusual' (despite wide press coverage) to 'serious' yesterday. He has been very critical about vaccines, not 'pretty open' about them.

 

I think for him to about turn publicly, alienate his fan base, I think the measles outbreak should be uprated to 'very serious'

[GarethM]

10 minutes ago, Steven P said:

mRNA was discussed at length in the Covid thread, they aren't a new method, been around for years (if memory serves me, might be wrong, 1960s 1970s?) however have been more expensive to produce than others, the preference was cheaper methods.

 

For speed of production though they are quicker which is where they came to the front in the Covid vaccines where speed was the primary factor. For anything 'new' the conspiracy theorists come out the wardrobe, in this respect RFK has never been shy to show his proper mental side.

 

RFK has had a vocal anti-vaccine stance, indeed blaming the MMR jab to cause autism and learning difficulties (most recently google thinks in 2023)(it doesn't). His comments a few weeks ago was this outbreak is 'nothing unusual' (despite wide press coverage) to 'serious' yesterday. He has been very critical about vaccines, not 'pretty open' about them.

 

I think for him to about turn publicly, alienate his fan base, I think the measles outbreak should be uprated to 'very serious'

I think we're all aware it's a bit more nuanced than that, or would you like people to start listing Starmer and Co promises ?.

[Steven P]

You could do but none of them are the US president and none of them have about-turned on MMR vaccines this week after years of denouncing them, so I reckon the relevance would be even less talking about Starmer and co here, cross threading.

[GarethM]

30 minutes ago, Steven P said:

You could do but none of them are the US president and none of them have about-turned on MMR vaccines this week after years of denouncing them, so I reckon the relevance would be even less talking about Starmer and co here, cross threading.

Similar level of office, so yes relevant.

 

Our lot couldn't find their arsehole without a map or for the ease of lammy just looking left/right wednesday dinner time.

 

Humm,

 

Trust the science.

I'm from the government and I'm here to help.

Edited 14 hours ago by GarethM

[Steven P]

So if you want to talk about Lammys arsehole pop it in the Labour thread, perhaps it is something we can all get behind and like? Unity for a change.

 

For now though, in the US thread, POTUS, happy enough to listen to a defence of RFK and his new views on vaccines, or go back up a step to my question of last night and what is the headliner, the big Trump, going to fail to do this week.

[GarethM]

You know foaming at the mouth is usually rabies?.

 

RFK wants tried & tested, simple.

Jabbing everyone and calling mRNA a success isn't the same as 60 years of old style vaccines.

[Steven P]

He didn't want the MMR jab, tried and tested, till that (white) 6 year old died. In fact he for the top health bloke, he doesn't want any vaccines (a well known anti-vaccine mouthpiece), 

 

 

However at the expense of covering what was in the Covid thread, again, a billion doses or whatever it was is quite a clinical trial and to date there hasn't been a million deaths or serious complications, in fact it is similar level of issues to what you'd get from any vaccine, still 60 years of research since the technique was developed, you'd expect that.