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  1. 1. Next POTUS?

    • Hillary Clinton
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    • Donald Trump
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Posted
23 minutes ago, Steven P said:

 

Can do this for a starter. Adultery conversation it is then, promise no insults and an aldulty reply?

 

 

Save trillions of dollars. So he has implemented 4.5 trillion in tax cuts, aimed at the richest. Do nothing and there will be cash flowing in. How is that for starters?

 

 

He could forget about buying Greenland, that must be a bit of a saving there?

 

He could shut his face for a while, noting the daily news stories around the world boycotting US goods, that can't be a good thing and must be worth a few millions in tax revenue. While I am at it, he could take a lead in supporting The Ukraine - there are many billions out there in the rebuilding that at the moment look to be heading to Europe... the tax and the new jobs from that must be worth a fair bit too.

 

Slow down the sacking of employees, when they need to get rehired that is also going to cost - redundancy pay and then back to their salary, must also be worth about a billion.

 

 

I might have mentioned this before but The Great Trump (as you see him) inherited a fortune... and if he had done nothing with it history shows he would now be richer. The Great Trump has now inherited tax rates that will be pouring cash into government if he sits and does nothing, but true to form he acted and will be poorer for it. Looking at history, he has no aptitude to reduce the debt either, his track record last time around was the debt rose at exactly the same rate as it did under Obama and excluding Covid, continued at exactly the same rate afterwards under Biden - anything he did before had no effect. Doubt it will now either apart from his mates will get richer.

 

End of it the finances are there, he just has to stop being Donald Trump essentially.

With your command of figures already seen on here, propensity to literally lie and make shit up, plus  your lack of ability to answer basic questions I’d say you are the last one to be criticising anyone over finances or morals. 
UK is in recession, April is gonna see far worse once the BS policies kick in Labour are making a rip roaring mess of things in our own country yet it’s the same few on here who can’t come to terms with Trumps election win that are literally clutching at straws to post up anything they can. 

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Posted (edited)
18 minutes ago, GarethM said:

I don't get where you believe I see him as some form of Messiah, but a necessity for the USA and saving $105B by all accounts already.

 

I see him as somewhere in the middle, John Kennedy is already talking about the tax system reform.

 

Think the phrase you don't go into politics to become rich, trump was already rich so what's to worry about.

 

Without getting into it and to try keeping the adult theme, but read back at any negative comment about The Trump and you are leaping to his defence. He cannot do a thing wrong if we believe the words you type.

 

 

Anyway, back to the finances, 105 billion is a small amount saved compared to the tax cuts I mentioned and this 105 billion is coming from the working man - the sacking and on. He's harming his voter base with that and soon enough I think they are going to realise in greater and greater numbers.

 

Trump was already rich, that is true, but his motivation here isn't his personal wealth - those around him advising him are though - but his motivation is vengeance on all the slights he perceives have been done to him - can be seen with his obsession with Biden, Harris, Clinton and more recently Zelensky, and also for validation. He wants to be popular, to be seen to be popular and when that popularity dips he is not going to be a happy bunny.

 

Which takes me back to the finances, the more he switches the tax from the rich to the poor the quicker his fan base will realise that they have been had. This is why there is no income tax increases to speak of but the tax increase is in the form of tariffs, still a tax and one that the poorer half of society will pay disproportionally compared to their wealth - it is a flat rate tax, it if a millionaire buys a tomato, or if the poorest buys a tomato, they are both taxed at the same rate. Switching income tax rises to tariff taxes is a tax cut for the rich and a hike for the poorest. But that is OK, tariffs are being sold to the US as 'other nations will pay' and not a tax increase

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Posted (edited)
7 minutes ago, Steven P said:

Without getting into it and to try keeping the adult theme, but read back at any negative comment about The Trump and you are leaping to his defence. He cannot do a thing wrong if we believe the words you type.

 

Anyway, back to the finances, 105 billion is a small amount saved compared to the tax cuts I mentioned and this 105 billion is coming from the working man - the sacking and on. He's harming his voter base with that and soon enough I think they are going to realise in greater and greater numbers.

 

Trump was already rich, that is true, but his motivation here isn't his personal wealth - those around him advising him are though - but his motivation is vengeance on all the slights he perceives have been done to him - can be seen with his obsession with Biden, Harris, Clinton and more recently Zelensky, and also for validation. He wants to be popular, to be seen to be popular and when that popularity dips he is not going to be a happy bunny.

 

Which takes me back to the finances, the more he switches the tax from the rich to the poor the quicker his fan base will realise that they have been had.

The man has been in power for what 2 months!.

 

It's called pragmatism, instead of automatically resorting to believing its a salt the earth scenario.

 

From what I've seen the state employees are 50% larger than when Clinton downsized it.

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4 years, 2 months....

 

And to quote another rip roaring successful politician, The Giant Trump has been telling us for 2 or 3 years that he has oven ready solutions to it all. He's been carefully thinking about this, 2 months in power - this time round - yes, but planning what to do for 2 more years before that... and still not doing a great job yet despite all his considerations. His current policies are predicted that their debt mountain will rise... even with all his thinking.

 

 

My thinking is based on history and the leopard not changing his spots.

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But if you were in his position, what would you be doing? Easing the taxes on the rich to pass the taxes onto poor, a blanket tax rise? Tax corporations? What do you think the best way to balance the books are?

Posted
2 minutes ago, Steven P said:

4 years, 2 months....

 

And to quote another rip roaring successful politician, The Giant Trump has been telling us for 2 or 3 years that he has oven ready solutions to it all. He's been carefully thinking about this, 2 months in power - this time round - yes, but planning what to do for 2 more years before that... and still not doing a great job yet despite all his considerations. His current policies are predicted that their debt mountain will rise... even with all his thinking.

 

 

My thinking is based on history and the leopard not changing his spots.

No, 2 months.

 

Sleepy Joe, pretty much erased everything Donald did last time.

 

That's why this time it's all guns blazing, so the results can be seen quickly and visible over the next 3.5 years as Donald 1 took the slow approach and that backfired before they had been implemented and realised.

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Posted
4 minutes ago, Steven P said:

But if you were in his position, what would you be doing? Easing the taxes on the rich to pass the taxes onto poor, a blanket tax rise? Tax corporations? What do you think the best way to balance the books are?

Personally I'd get rid of the offsetting tax things using charity.

 

That's how the rich reduce tax in the USA, whilst you can argue it's good for museums etc as that's why we had a lot of libraries here funded in part by Carnegie.

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The European Union, one of the most hostile and abusive taxing and tariffing authorities in the World, which was formed for the sole purpose of taking advantage of the United States...

Fair play, I didnt even know that the US produced Champagne!

 

"We are putting 200% tariffs on French cheese imports, this will be great for the US French cheese industry"

 

The mind boggles.

 

Posted
2 minutes ago, Mesterh said:
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The European Union, one of the most hostile and abusive taxing and tariffing authorities in the World, which was formed for the sole purpose of taking advantage of the United States...

Fair play, I didnt even know that the US produced Champagne!

 

"We are putting 200% tariffs on French cheese imports, this will be great for the US French cheese industry"

 

The mind boggles.

 

He makes a plate of mince look like quantum computer. 
My mind is genuinely boggled.

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