Potus ???

[peds]

51 minutes ago, GarethM said:

To paraphrase a good TV & Film actor but a bit too London liberal, "How do you know you're standing on the right side of history"

 

Because our side doesn't have swastikas and Nazi salutes and stuff 🙂

 

Easy tell, that one.

[GarethM]

4 minutes ago, peds said:

Because our side doesn't have swastikas and Nazi salutes and stuff 🙂

 

Easy tell, that one.

No, it just has hair dye seeping into their brains, a meaningless tartan paint esk flag and a love for telling children they can cut it off and become the other sex.

 

Or just the lack of balls to explain reality.

 

After 18, fill your boots or streamline yourself just don't teach anybody that to kids.

[Stere]

 

MAGA caps may as well have skulls on them

 

The rightwing are obessed with ladyboys etc......

 

 

I think its a topic with  100's of others of more importance, though I can see it might be impotant if you are LGBT etc & as now they are gonna be  very likely, increasingly  persecuted.

 

 

& then whos next.....

First they came for the Communists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Communist

Then they came for the Socialists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Socialist

Then they came for the trade unionists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a trade unionist

Then they came for the Jews
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Jew

Then they came for me
And there was no one left
To speak out for me

Edited Monday at 13:01 by Stere

[GarethM]

You are aware it never been illegal to be Lesbian?.

 

If you're so sure of your Nazi claims, go watch Cabaret effectively written by Christopher Isherwood and his experiences pre WW2.

 

And as usual the left conflate sexual freedom with childhood indoctrination.

[Spindrift]

[Youngstu]

11 hours ago, Johnsond said:

Jesus you left wing twats just can’t help yourselves , have to have the last little dig, Bigotry 😂😂 now eh, give yourself a shake get on  with raising your kids however you see fit,  I don’t give a shit what you think. let it ****************ing go man. 
 

 

If the cap fits...

Just in case you weren't sure, a simple google gives this definition:

 

bigotry

/ˈbɪɡətri/

noun

noun: bigotry; plural noun: bigotries

1. obstinate or unreasonable attachment to a belief, opinion, or faction, in particular prejudice against a person or people on the basis of their membership of a particular group.

   "the difficulties of combating prejudice and bigotry"

   h

   Similar:

   prejudice

    

   bias

    

   partiality

    

   partisanship

    

   sectarianism

    

   chauvinism

    

   discrimination

    

   unfairness

    

   injustice

    

   intolerance

    

   narrow-mindedness

   fanaticism

    

   dogmatism

    

   racism

    

   racialism

    

   sexism

    

   homophobia

    

   h

   Opposite:

   tolerance

    

[Big J]

I swore that I would stay away from this thread......

My 2 cents on the situation now is that the US is unashamedly an oligarchy. And most of the people that voted for Trump couldn't give a toss. 

 

The US government now exists principally as a money making device for those that buy into the Maga ideology. Musk invested $250m to get Trump elected and made $70b as a result. All the tech bros are lining up behind him now too. When you have more money than you can every spend, the pursuit of power and influence must be the only way to pass the time.

 

You've got Pam Bondi nominated as the Attorney General, having previously been a lobbyist for private prison companies. 

 

Pete Hegseth, a weekend Fox news anchor, serial sex abuser and drunk is now running the world's largest military with three million employees and a budget of nearly a trillion dollars.

 

Tulsi Gabbard, a recognised security risk, Al Assad sympathiser and Russophile is nominated as director of National Intelligence.

 

Kash Pattel, someone who has expressed in categorical terms a desire to use law enforcement agencies to enact retribution on Trump's polical adversaries, is nominated as FBI director.

 

RFK Jr as HHS Sec, despite being a vaccine efficacy denier and with a whole host of crazy ideas about health.

 

The list goes on.

 

Trump's withdrawel from the Paris climate accords is a financial own goal. The US is already lagging badly behind China in terms of green technology and the estimated trillion they'll save by pulling out would be dwarfed by the estimated 10 trillion they'd make by being at the forefront of the green energy wave.

 

Project 2025 is in full force. Tens of thousands of experienced civil servants are being removed and being replaced by sychophants whose primary qualification is fealty to Trump.

 

The anti-immigration rhetoric is an economic own goal. Even Musk acknowledges this. 

 

I agree that DEI has gone a little too far, but equally, the Trump reaction to it is a massive over reaction. As an avid cyclist, I don't want to see biologically male athletes in women's sport, but I also acknowledge that gender is a touch more complicated than what you're born as.

 

Trump has rowed back on so many of his campaign trail promises:

 

* he'll stop the war in Ukraine in 24hrs. Well it turns out it's a bit more complicated than that. Wouldn't want to piss off Putin either, now would he? 

* inflation - the price of eggs is now higher than ever

* end birthright citizenship - clearly unconstitutional and has already been ruled as such.

 

Also, consider how in the intervening time between reelection and taking office that Trump launched a digital currency for his own personal enrichment. Effectively taking advantage of the office of POTUS to make money. It's ethically deeply questionable. 

 

And then the release of the Jan 6 rioters. In the weeks prior to the pardons, Vance stated that violent offenders obviously wouldn't be released. Then Trump let them all out. White supremecists and people that brutally assaulted police officers, some of whom have since taken their own lives. It's mortifying.

 

Greenland, Canada and Panama - what the actual f**k?

 

I believe that we are witnessing the beginning of a sharp deterioration in the morality of western society, but with the US being the focal point for the time being. 

I also believe that sadly, the memory of WW2 is so distant now, present only in a few thousand very elderly people, that the sacrifices of those that fought for a generally peaceful and prosperous world order are being forgotten. History is doomed to repeat itself, and every period of peace is sadly followed by something far more unstable.

 

As a side note, please try to keep the debate and discussion on this thread civil. If everyone avoids personal insults, it's far easier to have a productive conversation. I'm 90% a left winger, but it's not to say that there aren't arguments outside of my normal political orbit that don't resonate with me. So please, keep it civil - imagine you were having the conversation face to face rather than furiously bashing a laptop keyboard

[Johnsond]

47 minutes ago, Youngstu said:

 

If the cap fits...

Just in case you weren't sure, a simple google gives this definition:

 

bigotry

/ˈbɪɡətri/

 

noun

noun: bigotry; plural noun: bigotries

1. obstinate or unreasonable attachment to a belief, opinion, or faction, in particular prejudice against a person or people on the basis of their membership of a particular group.

   "the difficulties of combating prejudice and bigotry"

   h

   Similar:

   prejudice

    

   bias

    

   partiality

    

   partisanship

    

   sectarianism

    

   chauvinism

    

   discrimination

    

   unfairness

    

   injustice

    

   intolerance

    

   narrow-mindedness

   fanaticism

    

   dogmatism

    

   racism

    

   racialism

    

   sexism

    

   homophobia

    

   h

   Opposite:

   tolerance

    

    

🤡😂😂 Is  that meant to generate offence ?? 😌
Whilst you were googling you should have looked up what is a woman and what is a man 👍👍

Edited Monday at 20:07 by Johnsond

[Johnsond]

15 minutes ago, Big J said:

I swore that I would stay away from this thread......

My 2 cents on the situation now is that the US is unashamedly an oligarchy. And most of the people that voted for Trump couldn't give a toss. 

 

The US government now exists principally as a money making device for those that buy into the Maga ideology. Musk invested $250m to get Trump elected and made $70b as a result. All the tech bros are lining up behind him now too. When you have more money than you can every spend, the pursuit of power and influence must be the only way to pass the time.

 

You've got Pam Bondi nominated as the Attorney General, having previously been a lobbyist for private prison companies. 

 

Pete Hegseth, a weekend Fox news anchor, serial sex abuser and drunk is now running the world's largest military with three million employees and a budget of nearly a trillion dollars.

 

Tulsi Gabbard, a recognised security risk, Al Assad sympathiser and Russophile is nominated as director of National Intelligence.

 

Kash Pattel, someone who has expressed in categorical terms a desire to use law enforcement agencies to enact retribution on Trump's polical adversaries, is nominated as FBI director.

 

RFK Jr as HHS Sec, despite being a vaccine efficacy denier and with a whole host of crazy ideas about health.

 

The list goes on.

 

Trump's withdrawel from the Paris climate accords is a financial own goal. The US is already lagging badly behind China in terms of green technology and the estimated trillion they'll save by pulling out would be dwarfed by the estimated 10 trillion they'd make by being at the forefront of the green energy wave.

 

Project 2025 is in full force. Tens of thousands of experienced civil servants are being removed and being replaced by sychophants whose primary qualification is fealty to Trump.

 

The anti-immigration rhetoric is an economic own goal. Even Musk acknowledges this. 

 

I agree that DEI has gone a little too far, but equally, the Trump reaction to it is a massive over reaction. As an avid cyclist, I don't want to see biologically male athletes in women's sport, but I also acknowledge that gender is a touch more complicated than what you're born as.

 

Trump has rowed back on so many of his campaign trail promises:

 

* he'll stop the war in Ukraine in 24hrs. Well it turns out it's a bit more complicated than that. Wouldn't want to piss off Putin either, now would he? 

* inflation - the price of eggs is now higher than ever

* end birthright citizenship - clearly unconstitutional and has already been ruled as such.

 

Also, consider how in the intervening time between reelection and taking office that Trump launched a digital currency for his own personal enrichment. Effectively taking advantage of the office of POTUS to make money. It's ethically deeply questionable. 

 

And then the release of the Jan 6 rioters. In the weeks prior to the pardons, Vance stated that violent offenders obviously wouldn't be released. Then Trump let them all out. White supremecists and people that brutally assaulted police officers, some of whom have since taken their own lives. It's mortifying.

 

Greenland, Canada and Panama - what the actual f**k?

 

I believe that we are witnessing the beginning of a sharp deterioration in the morality of western society, but with the US being the focal point for the time being. 

I also believe that sadly, the memory of WW2 is so distant now, present only in a few thousand very elderly people, that the sacrifices of those that fought for a generally peaceful and prosperous world order are being forgotten. History is doomed to repeat itself, and every period of peace is sadly followed by something far more unstable.

 

As a side note, please try to keep the debate and discussion on this thread civil. If everyone avoids personal insults, it's far easier to have a productive conversation. I'm 90% a left winger, but it's not to say that there aren't arguments outside of my normal political orbit that don't resonate with me. So please, keep it civil - imagine you were having the conversation face to face rather than furiously bashing a laptop keyboard

Face to face would be so much better J, you certainly made up for your absence with that post. 

Edited Monday at 20:05 by Johnsond

[Welshfred]

1 hour ago, Big J said:

price of eggs

 

That'll be down to avian flu. Think RFK can handle that?