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  1. 1. Next POTUS?

    • Hillary Clinton
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Posted (edited)
14 hours ago, Mesterh said:

Maybe he should say that to the family's of the soldiers that came to America's aide and died in those wars. Around 50 different countries fought in those wars for the US. 

I guess his cult followers will be nodding in agreement with him. The fat orange cnt and Vance are scum. 

 

 

It's been said by a great many people that have worked with him that he has absolutely no interest in or knowledge of history. He doesn't read anything. Everything he says and does is from impulse and gut feel. Some misconstrue this as him being genuine, ballsy and blue collar when what he is really is an uneducated moron from unbelievable privilege. 

 

Another quote I heard recently is that Trump is the wrong answer to the right question. So some of the issues that he's highlighted are absolutely valid (like Europe's dependence on US defence), but his approach is categorically wrong in almost every instance. Like realising that the decor in your house needs an update and deciding that burning down and starting again is most logical.

 

 

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Posted (edited)
13 hours ago, GarethM said:

You know it's sunny outside your padded safe space, get some vitamin d and you might suffer less TDS.

 

You still haven't substantively provided any justification for any of Trump's actions towards Ukraine. You just resort to insults, over and over again. If you want to make a case for his capitulation and deference to Russia, I am all ears. 

If all you are going to bleat on about is liberal tears, Trump Derangement Syndrome and woke agendas, then you don't have a leg to stand on.

 

Trump, in undermining the military, intelligence and negotiating position of Ukraine has only strengthened the possibility of wider war. It has increased the likelihood of more death, not less. 

 

To cap it all off, the vast majority of the funding that the US offered Ukraine directly benefitted the US. Old, obsolete arms were donated, instead of having to pay to dispose of them. New arms were manufacturered in the US, directly supporting US jobs. 

And not to forget that Ukraine is fighting a war on our behalf. If we (as in the West) roll over and allow Russia to take Ukraine, Putin will not stop there. The parallels with Hitler and 1938 are stark.

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33 minutes ago, Big J said:

To cap it all off, the vast majority of the funding that the US offered Ukraine directly benefitted the US. Old, obsolete arms were donated, instead of having to pay to dispose of them. New arms were manufacturered in the US, directly supporting US jobs. 

Valid up to a  point J but a lot of good far from obsolete kit has gone to Ukrainian forces. But  war is indeed very profitable. 

Posted (edited)

Trump chose a health secretary and look what happens

A measles outbreak in the American southwest has killed a second person, an unvaccinated adult, New Mexico health officials have said.

 

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1 hour ago, Big J said:

 

You still haven't substantively provided any justification for any of Trump's actions towards Ukraine. You just resort to insults, over and over again. If you want to make a case for his capitulation and deference to Russia, I am all ears. 

If all you are going to bleat on about is liberal tears, Trump Derangement Syndrome and woke agendas, then you don't have a leg to stand on.

 

Trump, in undermining the military, intelligence and negotiating position of Ukraine has only strengthened the possibility of wider war. It has increased the likelihood of more death, no less. 

 

To cap it all off, the vast majority of the funding that the US offered Ukraine directly benefitted the US. Old, obsolete arms were donated, instead of having to pay to dispose of them. New arms were manufacturered in the US, directly supporting US jobs. 

And not to forget that Ukraine is fighting a war on our behalf. If we (as in the West) roll over and allow Russia to take Ukraine, Putin will not stop there. The parallels with Hitler and 1938 are stark.

I've provided plenty of justification, you and few others just seem completely idealistic about Putin going home and refusing to see any level of negotiation.

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38 minutes ago, Johnsond said:

Valid up to a  point J but a lot of good far from obsolete kit has gone to Ukrainian forces. But  war is indeed very profitable. 

Wasn't it heavy guns, bae had to make a new factory in Sheffield as the old one in Cumbria now makes submarine parts.

 

Same gun, just 30 years later.

Posted
41 minutes ago, tree-fancier123 said:

Trump chose a health secretary and look what happens

A measles outbreak in the American southwest has killed a second person, an unvaccinated adult, New Mexico health officials have said.

 

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That'll be Bill Gates and his depopulation agenda again...

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