Potus ???

[GarethM]

I'm not reading some utter emptiness bs from a NGO sponsored by the WHO.

 

Why not use you skills to actually find something credible instead of scrabbling around in the dirt for the most tenuous of "links".

 

Do you actually venture outside of the safety of your padded, yet obviously WiFi equipped panic room ?, or do you have a council approved carer?.

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[GarethM]

Or Peds, more importantly before harking on about a country separated by a whole ocean.

 

Why not do something about the same issue on you own Irish doorstep, remind me again what the "locals" have to do for such reproductive rights?.

 

Granted you're about as much use as Leo was on the subject, let women advocate and change the narrative instead of blindly running around like David Tennant.

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[tree-fancier123]

1 hour ago, sime42 said:

I think you're right about mass migration/immigration though, no one can stop it in this day and age, and it'll be getting much more in future. Big walls won't stop it.

The will of the people can stop mass immigration - if they become so fed up with all the countryside being concreted over to make way for new housing and so fed up with taxpayer money being used to help economic migrants. If the majority view becomes anti immigrant they will sanction the necessary force to reduce the numbers. The methods chosen will be not for the squeamish, but we are talking about organisms competing for resources, particularly land and water. The rest of the animal kingdom can be quite brutal when a neighbouring herd tries to encroach on territory. 

Trumps wall alone won't work, but if Americans start to see the level of overcrowding we're beginning to see in southern UK, then hopefully they will say - hang on we don't want an ever expanding population and ever increasing urbanisation of the land. 

Data shows the blacks are still churning out babies in Africa like there's no tomorrow - I don't care how many nice goat curries they serve up - fact is they are coming over here and adding to urbanisation and overcrowding.

 So automatically no asylum from any country on earth, regardless of how much suffering - we need to learn to let others struggle to make their lives in their home countries, instead of making our lives a struggle.

All the immigrants that have arrived since the 80's have pushed up the house price to earnings ratio - the available building land doesn't expand with each new million population increase

Birth Rate by Country 2024

WORLDPOPULATIONREVIEW.COM

 

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[Steven P]

Just to reiterate, again, asylum seekers make up a tiny of the UKs immigrants. There are 1,000,000 every year (give or take a few) - government sanctioned immigrants (i.e. authorised and given work permits), Worried about immigrants and the effect on society, then that is the population to look at and a much much easier problem to deal with - in fact almost easy enough for a politician to deal with (any politician, apart from Liz Truss maybe). Not sure about the US but probably the same that authorised migration dwarf the numbers crossing Trumps wall

 

 

 

Quick note about house prices... asylum seekers get given £7 a day or there abouts to live on.. that will never be enough to push up any house price.. it is not them. Legal immigrants maybe.

[tree-fancier123]

£7 a day and taxpayer funded digs

 Its charity and we cant afford it. Spend the money retiring a few gilts

[tree-fancier123]

100 000 being processed - if 60 percent successful thats a whole new towns worth of houses needed,

plus the hundreds of millions wasted in legal work

if 50k come each year for 10 years thats half a million new people and thats whats happened.

The legals push up house prices too, but the illegals are also costing our deeply imdebted country a fortune. Trump knows its the same for US and hopefully he can mobilize the population to defend against the invaders. Guns germs and steel

 

[Johnsond]

1 hour ago, Steven P said:

Just to reiterate, again, asylum seekers make up a tiny of the UKs immigrants. There are 1,000,000 every year (give or take a few) - government sanctioned immigrants (i.e. authorised and given work permits), Worried about immigrants and the effect on society, then that is the population to look at and a much much easier problem to deal with - in fact almost easy enough for a politician to deal with (any politician, apart from Liz Truss maybe). Not sure about the US but probably the same that authorised migration dwarf the numbers crossing Trumps wall

 

 

 

Quick note about house prices... asylum seekers get given £7 a day or there abouts to live on.. that will never be enough to push up any house price.. it is not them. Legal immigrants maybe.

Blagging it again with BS SP rather than answer a straight question. You not feel embarrassed that you are being called out on here yet again. The other question about military service too 🤔I’m always interested in what fellow ex servicemen did whilst in. Just the amount of strategic and tactical military opinion you have would lead me to believe you are either  ex military or a total Walter 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️

[Steven P]

1 hour ago, tree-fancier123 said:

£7 a day and taxpayer funded digs

 Its charity and we cant afford it. Spend the money retiring a few gilts

 

However we managed to afford billions to Johnsons pals in useless Covid measures... which would look after all asylum seekers for many many years after we are dead. Stop some sanctioned migrants, asses the asylum seekers quicker and let them work instead. As for figures, not sure you ever looked how many health care professionals come here seeking asylum (at £25k to train them to UK standards, or 200k to train anyone else from scratch, why not let them work?). Let them work quicker, once it is accepted that they have a case and then suddenly we don't need to give them pocket money, we don't need to give them housing, rather than waiting 4 or 5 years for their case to be fully settled. Simple solutions.

[peds]

8 hours ago, GarethM said:

Do you actually venture outside of the safety of your padded, yet obviously WiFi equipped panic room ?, or do you have a council approved carer?.

 

Haha, wow. Lots to unpack, but I think we'll keep it brief to be honest.

 

Just earlier today, chatting with our course provider about fun things like coagulapathy and periorbital ecchymosis and green whistles, I couldn't help but think good golly gosh, I'm glad I lead a more sheltered life than this man. Nice fella, he delivers all of our medical CPD because you name it, pick a body part and stick a hole in it, he's patched it up at some point or another. From flying out into international waters so he becomes legal to slice open some poor guy's scrotum and untangle his torsioned testicles (survived), to amputating another lad's arm underwater in high seas as it was wrapped around the trawler's propeller shaft (survived), to swimming around grabbing chunks of the recently-exploded Mountbatten and popping them in a mesh bag off Mulllaghmore Head (did not survive), this fella lives an interesting life, and has seen and prevented more death than anyone else I've ever shared a room with.

 

Coming out of the room from that conversation, to this arbitrary and non-sensical drivel, your comment just strikes a fairly funny cord with me today. I'm not going to try and justify my relatively sheltered existence, I'm not even going to mention the various metrics by which I think you'd go about measuring it,  certainly not to you... because what's the point? 

 

You're an angry little man, and you have my pity.

[GarethM]

Ah the the art of saying lots but completely saying absolutely nothing.

 

Angry, nope I just know where to focus my energy.

 

Worry about what you can change, not something far outside my circle of influence.

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