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The bottom line is you can sell whatever you like, there are no lies being told or deception, however, ask ANY stove retailer, Hetas engineers, 99% of all firewood sellers and they will universally quote 25% or less. If you could, would you prefer to sell your 2 products at 25% for seasoned or kiln dried at 15%

Is that achievable or does it take too long in the kiln?

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The bottom line is you can sell whatever you like, there are no lies being told or deception, however, ask ANY stove retailer, Hetas engineers, 99% of all firewood sellers and they will universally quote 25% or less. If you could, would you prefer to sell your 2 products at 25% for seasoned or kiln dried at 15%

Is that achievable or does it take too long in the kiln?

 

I agree with those numbers but in my experience the moisture content is usually taken on the surface of a log if it's 15% on the outside but wetter in middle it will still burn well.

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Out of curiosity if I bought wood from you and then split it with an axe would it still be 10-18% on that split face? I don't know anyone who can get it that low internally around here without a lot of time and work

 

I don't use short pins on the face I use a delmhorst meter where you set species and temp and it's a hammer drive with 3" pins

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It's called marketing! I have 2 products, one I call seasoned that is an average of 30% moisture and one kiln dried that's all under 20% moisture. They both go in the kiln and just come out at different times. I'm not fooling anyone because I'm telling them exactly what they are getting. Doesn't matter if i call it seasoned and kiln dried or red wood and blue wood. But for the kiln dried I charge £25 per cubic metre more so why wouldn't I split the 2 products and charge more, It's just good business.

 

As an outsider to this with no foot in either camp I have been reading this with interest.

Whether or not it was ash's intention but calling the lower MC product kiln dried and the higher one seasoned is infering that seasoned wood is inferior to the kiln dried product.

As has already been said if you use wood that would be left to rot then no difference in the C footprint but I would be interested how ash powers his kiln.

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As an outsider to this with no foot in either camp I have been reading this with interest.

 

Whether or not it was ash's intention but calling the lower MC product kiln dried and the higher one seasoned is infering that seasoned wood is inferior to the kiln dried product.

 

As has already been said if you use wood that would be left to rot then no difference in the C footprint but I would be interested how ash powers his kiln.

 

 

I use softwood "chipwood" mainly. It's sold as "chipwood" so if I don't buy it, it would be on its way to be burnt somewhere else, probably at 40%+ moisture in the biomass plant in port talbot

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The exchange rate is already making an impact on fieldsports ammunition and chainsaw bars, to name just 2. Imported Kiln Dried Firewood price increase is soon to follow, which will impact on the amount that arrives on our shores.

 

At least those that dry in the UK are supporting the regional economy to a degree. (Those EU driven Tariffs need to be curbed though ! :thumbdown:)

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I use softwood "chipwood" mainly. It's sold as "chipwood" so if I don't buy it, it would be on its way to be burnt somewhere else, probably at 40%+ moisture in the biomass plant in port talbot

 

Good luck to you, you obviously have a formula that works for you.

 

The main point is that a kiln dried log at 20% and an air dried log at 25% pretty much deliver the same BTU. However a log at 25% and one at 30% makes

a much bigger difference in burn quality so that extra 5% in my opinion is crucial.

That's me done on the matter, have a good Sunday. :thumbup1:

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As an outsider to this with no foot in either camp I have been reading this with interest.

Whether or not it was ash's intention but calling the lower MC product kiln dried and the higher one seasoned is infering that seasoned wood is inferior to the kiln dried product.

As has already been said if you use wood that would be left to rot then no difference in the C footprint but I would be interested how ash powers his kiln.

 

thank you glad someone understood my point, call it something else and I wouldn't have any issue.

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