vt slipping? 11m rope and 8mm op

[Clark]

Hello recently been using an 11mm rope xtc blaze and a 8mm op 90cm with the vt with 4 wraps 4 braids and it sometimes doesn't grip after tending slack?

 

Any tips?

Thanks

[Steve Bullman]

try putting a twist between one of the braids. Its all about the cord length and if you are using fixed eye to eyes then you need to find ways of using up the excess

[MattyF]

Ocean polyester ??? Never liked the stuff for its inconsistency with a VT unless it's tied very short, I liked liros and roblon but they burn out quick.

Never looked back since AP.

[TIMON]

I found the same problem, but like Steve said I put a twist through the braids and it worked a lot better.

I am on 8mm op and 13mm Marlow gecko. 3 wraps and 3 braids.

 

For some reason I never had the problem using the VT on my side strop with same set up.

[Mark Bolam]

I found the same problem, but like Steve said I put a twist through the braids and it worked a lot better.

I am on 8mm op and 13mm Marlow gecko. 3 wraps and 3 braids.

 

For some reason I never had the problem using the VT on my side strop with same set up.

 

Same on the side strop mate. Grips immediately, every time.

I think it's because it's tied short, and would be a PITA to advance on a main system.

Back on Beeline 8mm now after a love/ hate with OP and it seems to suit my climbing style better.

 

I've always found its a trade off between slick advancement and bulletproof gripping no matter what I use.

 

 

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[TIMON]

Same on the side strop mate. Grips immediately, every time.

I think it's because it's tied short, and would be a PITA to advance on a main system.

Back on Beeline 8mm now after a love/ hate with OP and it seems to suit my climbing style better.

 

I've always found its a trade off between slick advancement and bulletproof gripping no matter what I use.

 

 

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Tradeoff is right..... Love the sport-ness of the VT but also like the grippy-ness of the eyetie hitch.

Only ever used op, I like its durability.

 

Got a zigzag coming in a couple of days

[Mark Bolam]

Remember me in your will please.

 

 

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[DanClimbsTrees]

 

Got a zigzag coming in a couple of days

 

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[Clark]

What do you mean by a twist? Does anyone have pictures to help. I might go back the old prusik if I can't figure out a solution haha

[TIMON]

What do you mean by a twist? Does anyone have pictures to help. I might go back the old prusik if I can't figure out a solution haha

 

 

By a twist (my version) I mean;

Tie a VT but simply twist the rope from the ends or the eyes before attaching to the krab.

This creates more stiffness and changes the characteristics of the hitch.

I think this is what Steve meant but not sure.

I've also included a pics of the eyetie hitch which is an excellent alternative to the VT.

Hope this is helpful