Roger Day

Please read the environment health act before you stick your smilie tongue out at me again. 1) I never said it was unprofessional. As a forester I have been witness and participant to numerous similar acts. 2) Yes you are correct. Oil spray and fumes from saws is a health hazard which is why legislation is changing to match the contemporary knowledge in this area. If there was a fume less, oil-less alternative I am sure operators would be happy. Whats wrong about all this IMO is that these trees, which are actually a valuable resource are being treated as waste and not an asset. In Austria for example, when trees are cut, every effort is made to utilized the potential fuel, even the brush is collected and used. As for transporting "Waste" the truth is that the answer is to keep it local. Again in Europe examples of municipal building complexes having Bio fuel plants that utilize this "waste" and heat schools, halls, Hospitals etc, are numerous. What is the point of transporting such bulky material to Wales where the only properly equipped chip handling power plant is. The fossil fuel used negates any gain. The govenment has sold us short in this respect. Please don't get me wrong, I understand the financial considerations, but the UK seems to be behind other countries in managing this asset. This, if used with for sight could reduce our bills, have less impact on the environment and generally benefit everybody.

Nice link Targettrees..Well done Thats the statute law.....Read on people Just one thought....like most dust hazards, the ash so small you can't see that it is most damaging, not the bigger stuff that falls to the ground....after gaining height in a rising clounm of hot air, fine ash can carry a very long way...ever wondered what smoke is made off? not just carbon I can asure you. Oh and don't foget the hazards to the workers as well, remember some trees have real toxic potential.... "For instance, the Portuguese Laurel (Prunus lusitanica) has cyanide compounds in its leaf structure. On no account should this foliage be burnt." Preaching to the converted I am sure, but not everyone knows this.

Firstly I know we are talking green untreated wood here. I don't have the correct legal answer to the original post but... After having to stop a college who was frequently mixing house clearance waste in with his "controlled burn", very close to my workshop, including treaded timber(Arsenic and other microscopic ash particulates of heavy metals), particle boards (formaldehyde) and others, I did a lot of googling. It is not so simple when money is involved. This is just one example where a man pleaded ignorance while burning "Green waste that had been transported to another site... Environment Agency - Leicestershire man fined for illegally burning waste If you research the environment Agency site other factors of the defining laws become apparent. The law has changed a lot since most of us grew up and environmental pollution can hold heavy fines and even prison sentences. I think you should be very careful and clear about where you stand. Don't take someone Else's word that something is OK unless you have seen the proof.

Yes thank you, absolutely.... I found all the loose parts for everything for Carlton http://www.sawchain.com/images/2008-2009%20Intl%20Catalog/SawChainRepParts.pdf and oregon eventually but I really want the new stihl carving chain I am having the same conversation in this thread http://arbtalk.co.uk/forum/chainsaw-carving-forum/13287-chain.html#post241585 so best if anyone is interested to go there Thanks again, I just wont give up as I know from experience that a dealer saying "Oh I dont think so" is not the end of it...Somewhere there is a part number for everything and if you can tell the dealer to order that number it will arrive...eventually...even if it has to go round the world a few times first

P.S. How did you get the code to work for the animated avitar, is that because you are a senior member with speciel permissions?

All sounds very interesting!!!! I actually came here (Arbtalk) this mornig in search for help with purchasing the parts for that specific stihl carving chain so that i could assemble something rather unique. I had to carefully grind off all the rivets of a longer length of Oregon 25Ap and grind the back but unfortunately got the size wrong .....ended up downloading a picture from the stihl site and scaling it to measure what they considered to be the correct clearence. Will be modifying it yet again.....more hours of fiddle diddle WEEKS later almost got what I dreamed of but next time would rather buy in the parts if I can. Any clues as to how to crack the Stihl dealer purchasing cycle ("Oh I don't think we can get that") and get to the nitty gritty Stihl reference numbers so I can order these things? i know it is possible. I once spoke to a very helpfull techie at Stihl uk in Camberly when rebuilding an anchient saw who told me the order number for the workshop manual and parts list only available to dealers.."Pissssd, Don't tell anyone I told you" For years they denied all knowledge of saw carving pratices until suddenly...powww Now they sell carving rigs!!!! We are the inventive force So any ideas? Seen your work too...Love the pond bench And met Simon last year...lovely man Best regards

..>>There is just so much good and big wood around, if one guy got wise he would set up to take all these big butts off contractors for free on the premise that the contractor would save money/time on the butt clearance leaving that portion to the miller!<<<<< Good point! As a worker in wood I have had similar arrangements with Surgeons. The reason it works is that they realise that the money is not in the wood but the effort to cut and move it. Breaks my heart to see so many big trees "Ringed" leaving unusable lengths, even for sculpture. With deep respect to all involved, I hope awareness of the potential of immortalising these fantastic trees can grow.

8" bar! Whats the rig? And Modified chain?

Stihl Chain Parts, i.e. loose cutters, drive links and presets. Does anyone know how to find the information ? The Stihl online reference does not list chain parts, so I presume it's reserved for dealers, but the ones I have asked will not help, "Ohh I dont think they do that". I am making some custom chain for a sculpting tool and had to very carfully dis-assemble a length of chain for the parts......It took far too long to do it carfully enough, grinding tiny rivet heads etc. Please any help appreciated

Been Busy makings stuff but found some time to edit some film from the archives. Just a few hours work one afternoon----NOT!!!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AeCa0FOH4ZQ&rel=0&color1=0x234900&color2=0x4e9e00&hl=en"

Thank you, I stand corrected. Any other mistakes blame the innocuous paper clip helper from Microsoft Word. Back to thread:- Interestingly I believe Sweet Chestnut was introduced to England by the Romans, which is, may be, one reason for its density in the South East since early history, being the first area of invasion. As far as I know its main purpose was to produce fuel for the forges of the army to make the arms required for invasion, being a quick growing coppice species that produced easily harvested poles. As a bonus the nut harvest feed the troops.

Wow this is so inspiring!!!!! thank you thank you. Love the bear Steve, great character, dont sell yourself short. The abstracts by Twellmann are just amazing!! Thank you all so much Dagmar: Just seen Twellmanns website I'm in shock, the man's work is out of this world. Anyone if you are into wood art GO LOOK www.twellmann.ch

Thank you Bowline, I appreciate your complimentary words. Without an audience the tree falls silently in the forest. Back onto firewood now. If sculpture is your thing visit thread "The Sculpture Garden"

Hey MonkeyDd So much work done by hand has left me speechless for a day. What a lovely project to be involved with. I am definitely up for more public art like this; the more the value of our trees is highlighted within the social consciousness, in this practical, interactive and sensual fashion, there has to be a benefit for everyone. Only good can come from this. Please everyone keep you senses keen for opportunities of this kind and tell us about them. Sponsorship can be found for well presented ideas I am sure, lottery millions, arts council, etc Below My sketchy attempt at a pine cone texture as promised to Tom D

Sweet Chestnut as fire wood, yea this one kept me warm. Unfortunately it was stolen, and as they could not sell it or show it off as the police reported it countrywide, it probably ended up as fire wood. note the ring shake (happy accident Silk slip dress) which makes chestnut troublesome to work when grown too big, beautiful fast grain though.

Excellent! Would say "Nice one LOL" but I think that was one of the dont rules? Should be compulsary viewing before registration. Thank you kind sir , it is a pleasure to converse with your good self. PipPip

Makes perfect sense now, Thank you. premature piston smearing begone!!

Crude it is not, Sketchy yes, a dynamic stylization yes. The sketch work of some of the world’s greatest artists is well known and loved for its spontaneous vitality. I really like the rhythm of the children and the fluid movement of the dolphins is great. This is a great example of the faceted nature of sculpting with chainsaw cuts. Profiles cut front to back, then from side on. It is the fundamental technique. If you want more realism, develop the quarter views and do some rounding off Thank you for showing us your work Monkyd. Have you got any more? Really, the more the better.

Hey WOW Great Response People. I’m overwhelmed. Will try to reply to everything. To: MattyF Look forward very much to seeing your “messing about” in The Sculpture Garden. By the look of your profile picture you have some imaginative ways of doing things (Crane and all that - I could use that for doing large pieces, Strung up in a harness, The thought had crossed my mind) To: detritus Yea, keeps me alive. It is a wonderful way to promote what I think is one of the most beautiful things in the world. I’m with the trees and the tree folk me. Fungi are one of my favourite forms, don’t knock it, I’ve made a lot of mushrooms and they are “Rightly” always loved by the public. “There is Magic in Them Woods” To: Big A Agreed----- SAFTY FIRST---- I do all sorts of “Out of the rule book” stuff to achieve my ends. This is from years of practice but one of the fundamentals is to set your chains for sculpting. Apart from gaining a really good understanding of tooth geometry always keep the depth limiters on sculpting chains high to minimise reaction. Standard kit is designed for maximum cutting; in sculpting you want control and an ability to use the saw in ways other than a deep cut for which they are designed. I could write a whole essay on the subject but refrain from boring you here. Big A I just love your sign off "Cry 'God for Harry, England and Saint George!'" it makes me chuckle every time I read it. KEEP UP THE FLAG you are a warrior of worlds my friend BEARS!!!! I carved a big bear once, ended up being a bit too cartoony for my liking. LESSON-only make things you really want to. To: Steve Please Steve, post your pictures, the more the better!!! Don’t be shy now folks, get your pictures rolling….. We can all gain from this wealth of experience. To: pecontools I don’t treat most of them. Being mostly oak they are durable and with time will weather a silvery gray which I personally find very attractive. Oil is great for nourishing the wood but with repeated applications it will eventually make it go very dark, even black. The client has the choice. Surface treatment is something I have not really investigated, please any suggestions are welcome. Love your profile picture. Glad I wasn’t there. To: Arborist Thank you for your very complimentary remarks. In the same vain I have to say the truth is YOU CAN do it. We all have the talent. What I am very lucky to have is the Time & Persistence to achieve my dream. To: Tom D Woww Great. Good for you. Love the scale of it. Magnified natural forms are always a winner. Really highlights the beauty of something that can so easily be taken for granted. Seed forms especially (fungi fruiting bodies included) are just so naturally sculptural. Got any more projects you can maybe show us? I tried a cone once, never finished it, got too technical, will post a pic of it if I can find one. SANDING Of cause sanding is an option; rough sawn wood has its own textural vibrancy which can be put to wonderful effect. The sanders I use are: - Disc, Drum, Belt, Palm, and Hand (of cause). All Grits Mostly disc as you can get 16 grit which is very aggressive, and therefore sculpts the form by sanding. That is how I achieved the purity of curvature in the bench heading the tread. Selling I make to sell and take commissions. All is good. Doing it is my thing. To: Mr Edd YES YES YES David Nash is excellent. I was lucky enough to see his show in Lewes last year. He really has a great philosophy behind his work. Google him everyone please!!! To: Buzz Yep burning is a common tool in the wood sculptor pallet. Removing the charcoal is totally disgusting if you just want it ebonized (Victorian chimney sweep syndrome) Smoothes the wood and accentuates the grain beautifully though. I’ve done my time. To: treejumper What can I say “Been there, done that” The humor in life is a blessing, enjoy the show. Below- One of my mushrooms for detritus and one of my favourite David Nash pieces. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE More pictures, More Adventures, IN THE SCULPTURE GARDEN

THE SCULPTURE GARDEN All you good creative people out there show us your work so we can be inspired and celebrate you imagination. Woodworking of any kind encouraged. I'll start with something I made last week. Oak. 2ft x 3ft

Hey it's the perpetrator, Googled my name found your link to me here, Joined up, now i'm hooked. Yea be good to catch up soon Will. Meanwhile Back to the Thread THE SCULPTURE GARDEN Coming soon to a forum near you All you good creative people out there show us your work so we can be inspired and celebrate you imagination. Woodworking of any kind encouraged. Watch out for the new tread. (when i've worked out how to do it being a newcomer)

In my experience cutting discs for grinders have a limited application. 1) High Vibration 2) Very close to body (Very noisy, “ooooch, Fingers”, stooping to work, etc) 3) No “Chain Break” I personally think that anything you can do with one CAN be done with a saw. Without the disadvantages listed above. Also a saw is more versatile in the shapes that it can cut, plane or grind, Therefore=Less tool changing---More sculpting. Also the standard nose of a small or medium bar is smaller than most of these, meaning higher detailed work. Having said this there are some advantages to well designed ones, such as The Lancelot sponsored here by Wills Mill. 1) Many teeth give a smooth cutting action. 2) NO FUMES OR OIL. 3) Light weight. I did buy a 7” one which was designed for brush cutting, but after various attempts to mount it in a safe way, thankfully my fear got the better of me. Any sculpting advise, please ask. http://www.rogerday.eu

Cool! I think you’ve really got something there. Yes and how consuming the task can be. KEEP AT IT Ref-Grinders 1) 16 grit is available, Wow can that rip, and great for green wood, still clogs up eventually, take a wire brush to it at that point. 2) Yes they do self destruct BUT….. CHEAP grinders are not well machined and vibration levels are high. Also they have NO A/V protection on them. And the gears are VERY NOISY!!!! YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED. Buy the best you can afford. Ref-DUST Please anyone considering doing a lot of machine carving, consider the real danger to health of the dust, fumes and oil vapor you are producing. One day, highlighted by shafts of light in a woodland setting, I saw the cloud of dust, oil, and fumes that I spend my working day in. I now ALWAYS wear a full face hood with a filtered blower on my back. I look like an alien BUT I am staying alive. I want to be doing this when I am 80. Also you can see a lot more clearly. That’s enough health and safety for the moment. Any advise required please ask http://www.rogerday.eu