benedmonds

I am sure there is plenty of work in the SE, if you are happy doing 5837 and mortgage surveys. I would call around architects and get friendly with all your local arbs firms.. Trouble might be having guaranteed work as surveys are always needed tommorow and remember to charge a decent rate.

Where are you based.. I am happy to pay employees in wood...

Sylvagen have just taken a few hundred tons from us. They took logs and chip, we obviously got a lower rate then if it had been chip, but It was less effort then chipping it on site. Yet to see the totals of be paid for it.. https://www.facebook.com/SylvagenLTD/

Council run tree gangs working on non council trees to make the council money should have a huge competitive advantage. Their advertising powers are going to dwarf all but the biggest tree firms and access to TO's would take the will they won't they out of applying for TPO works. Their potential access to a huge range of kit from the council fleet, access to other staff and teams, the ability to tag works onto other contracts and always having there own works as a back up also a massive advantage. Not to mention the back office support.. They also have a huge disadvantage, they are being run by council employees and are therefore restrained in many other ways..... Instinct tells me that the bureaucracy and lack of drive is going to make them less efficient then a commercial outfit so they will have to charge a decent rate. If that is the case then it's not so bad..

Eggs, you are often on here telling us how poor rates the rates of pay are employees and subbies get and they all need £xxx... Correct me if I am wrong but I don't believe you work full time in the tree industry.. It is low paid... I run 3 teams, I do most of the quoting and therefore probably do as many quotes as anyone.. I don't try to be the cheapest and we have kit and guys to make us pretty efficient.. I lose many of my jobs as: "we had a cheaper quote." The point is I have a pretty good idea what the domestic market will pay and in the East Midlands. Many firms work for £450-£550 for 3 guys truck and chipper. You cannot afford to pay the sort of rates you are talking about when you have to get lots of work.. A gardener doing an odd job who needs a top climber for the day might be able to afford top rates and maybe in different areas rates are higher, but in the East Midlands I can't.. If you can then let us all know how... £150 day rate equates to £33,000 a year.. £200 day rate is £44,000. The average UK salary is just over £27,000 look at the jobs on the list.. A vet only earns £38,000 and they were straight A students who spent 5 years at uni.. https://www.cosmopolitan.com/uk/worklife/careers/a33179/average-job-salaries-uk/ Like it or not arboriculture is an easy industry to get into, some do it as hobby at weekends.. others get into it as a lifestyle choice.. a fair few set up after doing something else with capital behind them, many are just poor business people... Maybe I am doing it wrong, I make a living but I would not advise anyone to get into it for the cash.

Appeal it.. Some of the pins inspectors are not anti reductions...

Not if they are sisters

Hit quote instead of edit...

It is worth whatever someone is willing to pay and some people will pay, but not many. I would be happy with £50 if they came and took it away.. If you said £5 for a car load you could do OK. We have just "sold" several 100 tons of arb arisings and think we got £4 or £5 a ton.

Not a 5 tonner, a 3.5.. weights in at over 3 tons empty apparently...

The first is a 7 tonner.. and I agree a bigger truck would be more useful.. But for domestic arb it is not unusual for there to be a few big lumps that some hydraulic lifting would save a whole lot of sawing.. and if like us you run multiple trucks you could load them or a trailer with it.. Our old 6.5 toner with tail lift has died, so I need a replacement...

This is more affordable.. but I think is a 5 tonner so can't carry much..

This would make a great domestic arb truck.. Why is it so expensive..? https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2016-16-IVECO-DAILY-70C17-3-0-170BHP-7TONNE-TIPPER-WITH-HIAB-CRAIN/132748308951?_trkparms=aid%3D888007%26algo%3DDISC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D53676%26meid%3D65016fd9a3f444d1acd0e671aede4efe%26pid%3D100009%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D2%26sd%3D223104531745%26itm%3D132748308951&_trksid=p2047675.c100009.m1982

If you are planning on phasing out the sycs and this is not being done for timber.. fell the good ones and leave the poor ones.. Better habitat that way..

I am not proposing working it out. Just that being VAT registered is not commercial suicide.. And the 20 percent is in reality somewhat less..

Not to you maybe.. The op. Thought going vat reg adds 20 percent to your rates (to domestics) therefore makes you uncompetitive.. the point I was trying to make is that to commercial clients it can actually make you more competative as your costs are lower..

My thinking is that the non vat company will charge the commercial client £500. The vat reg company will be the same cost to the client at £500 plus vat. So in this case the vat reg co has the advantage as they theoretically have lower costs as they claim the vat back.. it might not be a lot... but as bob said earlier helps reduce that 20 percent perceived additional cost by being vat reg..

And comercial clients you can charge 20 percent more then non vat reg firms.

We found the heated handles do not last that long and can be expensive to repair.. but they are nice in the winter when they work..

The sad thing is that there is a large possibility it is not even the tree to blame.. Ime trees regularly removed without any evidence of being the cause..

Reg Coates had a take on this a while back.. I recall there being a thread on arbtalk.. In that thread most agreed with reg as I recall? I didn't....

There always is on here when pay is discussed.. Many don't seem to realise the difference..

Pretty sure that is Not true. I don't believe there is a minimum number of hours..