Making the news today....

[scotspine1]

Funny old world.....

 

[Macpherson]

39 minutes ago, Woodworks said:

What goes on internationally my well be a different matter.

Aye, the problem of plastic pollution is massive particularly in the oceans and recently highlighted on Blue planet II.... I thought this guy's idea could be an interesting alternative approach to encourage a change in attitude  for many of the poorest communities on earth.

 

https://www.ted.com/talks/david_katz_the_surprising_solution_to_ocean_plastic

[onetruth]

6 hours ago, kevinjohnsonmbe said:

Private V Public sector:

Private sector - Carpetright - closes poorly performing branches....

Public sector - NHS payrises on top of annual and in-year payrises

Not sure what point you're making here.  NHS saves lives.  Carpetright sells carpets.  If you're suggesting the NHS should close all loss-making services, I think I'd have to disagree!

[onetruth]

1 hour ago, scotspine1 said:

Funny old world.....

To be fair, both Assange and Zucherberg have detractors and supporters in the media.  I can't say I've noticed a particular bias in either case.

[onetruth]

7 hours ago, Vespasian said:

As far as I'm aware the only crime to be got at when speaking your mind or offering up your opinions is incitement..

 

Did this video have the potential to incite violence?...

 

I doubt it. 

As I understand it, the crime he was convicted of was "incitement of racial hatred" (not violence per se).  That sounds like a lower threshold, but I still can't understand why he was convicted based on the little I've read about the case.  Nobody who didn't hate the Jews before watching the video is going to become an anti-Semite by watching it, and as others have said, context is crucial.  Don't understand why the police charged him, don't understand why the CPS prosecuted the case, don't understand why the courts convicted.  All that's been achieved is increased distrust in the legal system and a publicity boost for the far-righters who are now acting as the defenders of liberalism. 

 

Some of the reporting is way off - they suggest that he was convicted of being "grossly offensive".  This is just wrong.  The Judge remarked that the video was such, but there is no such crime.  I've noticed a lot of exaggerated and unprofessional comment being opined by Judges in recent court cases - something I find a bit troubling, they should stick to the law.

[kevinjohnsonmbe]

31 minutes ago, onetruth said:

Not sure what point you're making here.  NHS saves lives.  Carpetright sells carpets.  If you're suggesting the NHS should close all loss-making services, I think I'd have to disagree!

Well, I thought the point was a fairly obvious one, so much so that I genuinely didn’t think it necessary to break it down - at least it is in my circuitry, that’s not to say I won’t welcome an alternative view 

 

Take the outputs out of the equation (seemingly impossible, but ENTIRELY necessary when discussing/ thinking about NHS if there is ever to be any hope of finding a sustainable future)

 

2 organisations (granted, vast difference in scale but so what) 1 recognised and seeks to “fix” inefficiency, the other doesn’t...

 

Thats the point....

[onetruth]

8 minutes ago, kevinjohnsonmbe said:

Take the outputs out of the equation (seemingly impossible, but ENTIRELY necessary when discussing/ thinking about NHS if there is ever to be any hope of finding a sustainable future)

 

2 organisations (granted, vast difference in scale but so what) 1 recognised and seeks to “fix” inefficiency, the other doesn’t...

Taking that argument to its logical conclusion: as all NHS institutions are loss-making once government funds are taken out of the equation (except, perhaps, their car-parks), the "fix" is to close them all down.

 

More customers for carpetright = greater profit.  More customers for NHS = greater loss.  Nothing to do with difference in scale: you simply can't take the outputs (or inputs) out of the equation.

Edited March 21, 2018 by onetruth

[kevinjohnsonmbe]

Are you blinded by the (in part understandable) emotional attachment?  

 

Money in - product out.

 

Management responsibility is to ensure the product out achieves VfM (NHS) or profit (private sector.)

 

Those 2 functions are not vastly dissimilar once the hysteria is stripped away.

 

Failure to strip away the hysteria / political bias and approach the matter sensibly will result in the collapse of the very institution that most energetic protagonists of it warn against.  Baffled.....

 

 

 

 

 

 

[kevinjohnsonmbe]

3 hours ago, Woodworks said:

Surely they dont end up everywhere now. We put it in a bin and it then goes to a council depot that either recycles it or burry it in a clay lined hole. The later is clearly not ideal but neither should end up with plastics everywhere. Have massive fines for litter louts to stop plastics being disposed of incorrectly. What goes on internationally my well be a different matter.

Saw a news feature t'other day where micro beads were found in an alarming number of branded bottled waters...  (leaving the debate about bottled waters aside  for a minute) Bit of a worry if the fish are eating micro beads, then we're eating the fish, if there are micro beads in the water that we're drinking too....  Where next and to what effect?? 

 

It's quite 'adjacent' really, it hasn't taken too long for the plastics that are a relatively recent arrival on the scene to make their way into the food chain.  Doesn't leave much time for adaption (tin hat, retires to wibble in the corner....) 

[forestboy1978]

7 hours ago, the village idiot said:

Classy.

I bet you're a barrel of laughs....