Making the news today....

[Johnsond]

7 minutes ago, tree-fancier123 said:

It wasn't that one it was the department store one - her testimony below. As I'm not a woman who's ever been raped by a powerful man I have no idea why she didn't go to the police at the time. It does seem a bit off that she waited until Trump was involved in politics, but she was no porn actress.

 

She said she pushed him back and he again shoved her against the wall, banging her head. She described how Mr. Trump used his weight to hold her against the wall, then pulled down her tights. Ms. Carroll grew emotional as she testified. “I was pushing him back,” she said. “I was almost too frightened to think if I was afraid or not,” she added later.

“His fingers went into my vagina, which was extremely painful,” Ms. Carroll testified. Then, she said, he inserted his penis.

Criminal conviction? 

[tree-fancier123]

12 minutes ago, Johnsond said:

Criminal conviction? 

Obviously he didn't get put away - if she had have gone to the police straight away they could have got some DNA maybe (many women who are raped say they were too traumatised at the time to report it) - some aren't telling the truth, but some are. As it is the court found him guilty of sexual abuse and awarded damages

[Steven P]

1 hour ago, tree-fancier123 said:

Obviously he didn't get put away - if she had have gone to the police straight away they could have got some DNA maybe (many women who are raped say they were too traumatised at the time to report it) - some aren't telling the truth, but some are. As it is the court found him guilty of sexual abuse and awarded damages

 

The judge in the civil trial said that while technically she wasn't raped (in the narrow New York legal definition), to the man on the street (you and me), what Trump did was rape. This was from a judge who had sat through all the evidence - more than you or I, or anyone on this forum - and that was his ruling. Damages were awarded accordingly.

[Johnsond]

11 minutes ago, Steven P said:

 

The judge in the civil trial said that while technically she wasn't raped (in the narrow New York legal definition), to the man on the street (you and me), what Trump did was rape. This was from a judge who had sat through all the evidence - more than you or I, or anyone on this forum - and that was his ruling. Damages were awarded accordingly.

Any chance of those loose ends being tidied up blagger 

Seeing as here you are on a Sunday afternoon with nothing better to do. 

[Johnsond]

1 hour ago, tree-fancier123 said:

Obviously he didn't get put away - if she had have gone to the police straight away they could have got some DNA maybe (many women who are raped say they were too traumatised at the time to report it) - some aren't telling the truth, but some are. As it is the court found him guilty of sexual abuse and awarded damages

Criminal conviction ? 

[tree-fancier123]

6 minutes ago, Johnsond said:

Criminal conviction ? 

Deja vu - scroll up 4 posts - if my answer didn't satisfy you it was probably because I didn't say 'no criminal conviction DT is a wonderful man, everything he stands for is righteous'

They should have swabbed out her fanny soon after, but they didn't. She could be making it all up.

[Johnsond]

41 minutes ago, tree-fancier123 said:

Deja vu - scroll up 4 posts - if my answer didn't satisfy you it was probably because I didn't say 'no criminal conviction DT is a wonderful man, everything he stands for is righteous'

They should have swabbed out her fanny soon after, but they didn't. She could be making it all up.

I’m not interested if he was wonderful man or not. 
She did very well financially out of the whole affair that’s for sure. 
Right back to the original point, Hamas raping women and girls to death, no comments on that I see. 

[tree-fancier123]

24 minutes ago, Johnsond said:

Right back to the original point, Hamas raping women and girls to death, no comments on that I see. 

so if Hamas hadn't raped the women and girls to death 'only' murdered 1200, then the Israelis response would have been more proportionate?

[Mike Hill]

8 minutes ago, tree-fancier123 said:

so if Hamas hadn't raped the women and girls to death 'only' murdered 1200, then the Israelis response would have been more proportionate?

 

Where would you say the line between proportionate/ disproportionate revenge for mass rape and murder lies?

[Mick Dempsey]

23 minutes ago, Mike Hill said:

 

Where would you say the line between proportionate/ disproportionate revenge for mass rape and murder lies?

That’s the nub of it.