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[matelot]

The sheer police prescence of bobbies on the beat would be a deterrent in itself.

 

We need to look at ways to deal with the problem in the long term, not just immediately.

 

20,000 extra police will make very little difference as there are so many soft targets in Britain.

 

If a terrorist has a knife he could kill a class of kids before the police show up. If a terrorist has a bomb all he has to do is detonate it in any high street in the UK.

 

Random deterrent policing is unlikely to have much impact on terrorism.

 

I don't think anyone wants to go down the road of internment camps of the kind favoured by nazis, so we need to think of a way to sort it. Banging on about it won't help.

 

Internment camps? Are you thinking of concentration camps? They are two different things.

 

In WW2 we locked up Germans that were in the UK in internment camps. I think the time has come to send the 3,000 suspected terrorists in the UK to internment camps...

[Mark J]

No.

 

It's not the "cuts" you seem so desperately to want to believe are the cause of the current deficiency in armed police officers.

 

The UK has never had (relatively) high numbers of armed police. It's been a conscious decision over many decades that it should be so.

 

The current European terrorist "risk" status has grown faster than organic policing capabilities have been able to adapt.

 

Op Temperer is an appropriate (albeit potentially perceived as radical) use and deployment of public services.

 

The military will take a fixed role in physical security of pre-determined areas thus releasing the firearms trained police from those areas to raise the armed policing profile in the public eye. It's subtly different from hysteria about "troops on the streets."

 

You misunderstand what I'm saying. I'm not talking about the shortage of armed police, I'm talking about the shortage of coppers all round. More police mean safer communities.

 

Suicide bombers aren't deterred by any police.

[Haironyourchest]

The Swedish defence minister reintroduced the draft a couple of months ago. Mandatory service for boys and girls...claimed it's in response to Russian activity near their border...

[matelot]

How about trialling the idea that any terrorist who dies in the act passes any and all charges he should be tried for to his immediate family with the harshest punishment deportation.

 

Knowing actions would carry consequences to his/her family may be a game changer?!

 

Thoughts?

 

The Israeli's do something similar to the family of suicide bombers.....

[Mark J]

 

In WW2 we locked up Germans that were in the UK in internment camps. I think the time has come to send the 3,000 suspected terrorists in the UK to internment camps...

 

Until when?

[matelot]

we could maybe do something radical... give the extremists exactly what they want....

 

kill the lot of them, we get to live in safer societies and they get to spend eternity in paradise with their 72 virgins.

 

everyone a winner!

[Mark J]

How about trialling the idea that any terrorist who dies in the act passes any and all charges he should be tried for to his immediate family with the harshest punishment deportation.

 

Knowing actions would carry consequences to his/her family may be a game changer?!

 

Thoughts?

 

What if his parent's were born here, where would they get deported to?

[matelot]

Until when?

 

tbh, I'd just lock the extremists up and throw away the key.

[Mark J]

we could maybe do something radical... give the extremists exactly what they want....

 

kill the lot of them, we get to live in safer societies and they get to spend eternity in paradise with their 72 virgins.

 

everyone a winner!

 

How do you know who an extremist is?

[matelot]

How do you know who an extremist is?

 

GCHQ know everything...