Elm Reduction

[stoxs]

why do hedge row elms or pollarded elms not get DED?

I was told the beetle that attacks them flies at a certain hight? i thought this was a fairy tale but it may have some truth.

[skyhuck]

why do hedge row elms or pollarded elms not get DED?

I was told the beetle that attacks them flies at a certain hight? i thought this was a fairy tale but it may have some truth.

 

IMO, thin cambium.

[stoxs]

IMO, thin cambium.

 

 

but the cambium low down is what you would expect from a taller tree of the same age, why don`t the little peskis get in there.

also the weekend we saw a quiet large elm covered in ivy and looking quiet healty, is the ivy helping? i dunno

[Simon Rotheram]

Yeah, pretty much a pollard. You're right, i think that it will look terrible as well, and have told the customer, but they want the view down the valley. I think that, they should choose between the view and the tree.

 

Cheers

 

Pollarding should be undertaken on young trees, your client is requesting topping! Is it possible the tree could be lifted to allow the view?

 

those bad boy roots are soking up a lot of juice dave, look how vigorous the growth is after,i always reckoned the tree was used to feeding a huge canopy, so when pollarded it is putting all its nutrients from the roots into a smaller amount of growth points so the tree is stronger, any dying elm that i have ever pollarded has lasted a lot longer than the ones left alone. maybe i am wrong, its just what i have asumed. and most of the weeping elms are more resiliant up with us, they are only starting to die now, as with the cornish elms, i know of a row of about 30 young ones that have been struck down within the last year. and 3 weeping. i just asumed having a large trunk and small canopy to feed the weeping ones were stronger. what are your thoughts:001_smile:

 

In response to "topping" the tree will try to compensate by adding foliage either where you cut or elsewhere. Trees tend to replace the foliage mass removed via pruning within 3years. Another reaction is new shoots growing, mainly near the cut. Which is bad as they tend to be weakly attached and grow rapidly and spindly.

[slasherscot]

i think what we are finding with any regen elms, is they last for about 20years and then ded strikes

[Stephen Blair]

i have seen regen do that aswell, grows great guns then dies off, its like the trees final last sprint before the end. i know what you are saying dave about the leafs feeding the tree, but surely the roots nutrient intake must be doing something to to get the ball rolling. simon, i know what you are saying about regrowth, pollards or coppice should be done every 13-17 yrs i read, due to the weakness of the stems. but when you are trying to save something surely it doesnt matter what it look like. i know this is my customers point of view, they would rather a futty lolipop than no tree at all:001_smile:

[fen01]

This is all really interesting, thanks guys learning loads.

 

At the end of the day if the work is classed as 'topping' or 'pollarding, it will probably live and look strange until it fills out... Then i will need to visit again. Ok with me!

[Mesterh]

pollards or coppice should be done every 13-17 yrs i read, due to the weakness of the stems.

 

More like 3-5 years, well for pollarding anyway.

 

Top that elm and it will grow back good and proper (well not proper but you know what I mean )

[Mark Bolam]

Be sure to post pics mate, so we can properly rip you to shreds from our armchairs!

[Stephen Blair]

More like 3-5 years, well for pollarding anyway.

 

Top that elm and it will grow back good and proper (well not proper but you know what I mean )

 

yeah but in the good old days they used the wood for stuff, so 5 years growth wasnt much use to them:001_tongue: