flipline backup

[Starscream]

In logging, or forestry here Steve, you're not even required to use a climbing rope. Many guys don't, to keep the weight down. They're already carrying axes wedges, gas and oil, saws on their belts....while scaling huge trees. I can see the appeal in that....but in the event of an accident or emergency up there, Id at least want the option of being able rappel out of the tree on my own. Because the next climber could be 600 yards away.

 

How interesting, I never considered the fact guys doing the real big stuff carry their own fuel!! 150ft though, I'm not sure my testicles would let me go that high so not something I have to consider.

[Robert_S]

Would it not make more sense to cut the 2 way off the end of the flip line and place a 3 way directly on to the flip line?? if the 2 ways done why keep it, unless this was done in the field, even then there still looks room at the end of that flip line to put a 3 way directly on rather than an old split tail.

[RC0]

How interesting, I never considered the fact guys doing the real big stuff carry their own fuel!! 150ft though, I'm not sure my testicles would let me go that high so not something I have to consider.

 

There's no ground support....that's the thing. You're pretty much working solo but for doing radio checks every 30 mins. Same reason you can't trail your climb line on the ground.

[RC0]

Would it not make more sense to cut the 2 way off the end of the flip line and place a 3 way directly on to the flip line?? if the 2 ways done why keep it, unless this was done in the field, even then there still looks room at the end of that flip line to put a 3 way directly on rather than an old split tail.

 

Yeah it would be better. But that's a crimped eye on the end regardless, and I just have a feeling it should be retired now.

[Stephen Blair]

Good thinking, a rummage around the kit bag in the middle of no where!

On big pines I've always attached my main line after a certain height, usually about the 40' mark, it's just the height I start to get concerned. The weight of the rope when you are above 80' gets a pain and falling limbs can snag etc, so I always put the bag on upside down once ive attached the main line to keep the rope out the way, now with ropeguide I slide that up as I go and that's my safety line so to speak.

[stewmo]

i see where you're coming from Reg. Pines with a clear drop one, all thats needed is a flipline. Goes against the grain a bit with what HSE in the UK advises, but when I first started climbing thats all we used really if we werent carrying out arboriculture.

 

Yes that's all you need, if i was taking down a confier here in the UK it would be rare for me to use my rope until chogging down....but at 150ft I may change my mind!

[stewmo]

Reg,

in one of the other vids it shows you coming down and at a certain point you switch back to the flipline from rappelling for the last stretch - how come - is the rope not long enough?

thanks

[RC0]

Reg,

in one of the other vids it shows you coming down and at a certain point you switch back to the flipline from rappelling for the last stretch - how come - is the rope not long enough?

thanks

Yeah I only took a 150 rope, so it was the same senario

for every tree. I get to descend 75ft, and then spur down the remainder. It's a trade off, longer rope = more weight to carry up there to start with. Spurring down is easy, especially on red cedars, so that was my choice. I could've used a long friction saver to re-set half way down, but it's just more gear and clutter to mess with.

[atree]

Good thinking, a rummage around the kit bag in the middle of no where!

On big pines I've always attached my main line after a certain height, usually about the 40' mark, it's just the height I start to get concerned. The weight of the rope when you are above 80' gets a pain and falling limbs can snag etc, so I always put the bag on upside down once ive attached the main line to keep the rope out the way, now with ropeguide I slide that up as I go and that's my safety line so to speak.

 

I do the same to but just running bowline for S.r.t.Looks a fair size tree your going up?

[Stephen Blair]

She was around 125'