Top handle saw

[dan494]

That's what I thought👍

 

 

If we lived in a world/country where it was illegal to buy a chainsaw I'd go get an office job tomorrow! I think it's more dangerous selling back handled chainsaws to weekend warriors than top handles to people who have experience in the tools to make an informed decision ticket or no ticket. Wouldn't stop either as its freedom of choice but I do suggest to people they don't but saws unless they know how to use one safely

[djbobbins]

Meanwhile, over in the land of rules you can buy one in a DIY shed or they will deliver:

 

http://www.obi.de/decom/product/Dolmar_Benzin-Kettensaege_PS-222_TH%2F25_cm/8950180?sc=862

[Richard 1234]

The main reason I would not get one is I have no intension of climbing a tree so I have no need for one my baby ms170 does everything I need😂

[GardenKit]

There is a very good reason for only supplying top handle saws to operators who can prove competence. This is because in the past a ban was considered on the sale of Top Handles in the UK, as has actually happened in some european countries. This ban was deferred by the main manufacturers introducing the 'proof of training' rule (not 'law') with which the government was happy.

 

There has been much debate on this forum in the past with regards to the need to provide your CS39 when buying a top handle and also it has become apparent that many sellers are now flaunting this "code".

 

The dealer trade magazine "Service Dealer' published this recent article on the subject which may be of interest.

 

The AEA (Agricultural Engineers Association) recently repeated its advice to manufacturers and distributors of chainsaws asking them to remind their dealers that top handle saws must only be supplied to bona-fide tree surgeons or operators trained (with proof of training) in their use.

They say "The reason for this is because we are aware that some dealers are offering these products via distance or internet sales for general sale and supply to members of the public, instead of restricting the sale to trained professionals."

"This has resulted in a growing concern from several market surveillance authorise (MSA's)in the EU, including the UK. As a direct consequence of this intelligence the MSA's placed an item on the agenda of the Machine Directive Working Group to discuss the banning of such products, and this remains the case today."

"Until recently the UK has been portrayed as a shining example of how the industry self regulates in this area, although some holes are beginning to appear in the UK, which need to plugged or we're likely to receive special attention from the authorities"

 

I am not about to argue the rights or wrongs of this, but it is obviously causing current concern, so I would urge all prospective purchasers to willing and gladly produce their certificates, and those who want a top handle but do not have the training to get the training before putting their dealer on the spot.

The last thing the industry need is a ban on these saws.

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[Richard 1234]

What I don't understand is why you would want if you don't do it for a living because if it's your living then you should be wanting training as its not a toy

[Stubby]

That's different from using one without qualifications being the law. Now you are talking about H&S, good working practices and employers liabilities in regards to employees safety and wellbeing.

 

If it were illegal, I would have been hauled away years ago:blushing:

 

They are coming for you Steve

[R Mac]

There is a very good reason for only supplying top handle saws to operators who can prove competence. This is because in the past a ban was considered on the sale of Top Handles in the UK, as has actually happened in some european countries. This ban was deferred by the main manufacturers introducing the 'proof of training' rule (not 'law') with which the government was happy.

 

There has been much debate on this forum in the past with regards to the need to provide your CS39 when buying a top handle and also it has become apparent that many sellers are now flaunting this "code".

 

The dealer trade magazine "Service Dealer' published this recent article on the subject which may be of interest.

 

The AEA (Agricultural Engineers Association) recently repeated its advice to manufacturers and distributors of chainsaws asking them to remind their dealers that top handle saws must only be supplied to bona-fide tree surgeons or operators trained (with proof of training) in their use.

They say "The reason for this is because we are aware that some dealers are offering these products via distance or internet sales for general sale and supply to members of the public, instead of restricting the sale to trained professionals."

"This has resulted in a growing concern from several market surveillance authorise (MSA's)in the EU, including the UK. As a direct consequence of this intelligence the MSA's placed an item on the agenda of the Machine Directive Working Group to discuss the banning of such products, and this remains the case today."

"Until recently the UK has been portrayed as a shining example of how the industry self regulates in this area, although some holes are beginning to appear in the UK, which need to plugged or we're likely to receive special attention from the authorities"

 

I am not about to argue the rights or wrongs of this, but it is obviously causing current concern, so I would urge all prospective purchasers to willing and gladly produce their certificates, and those who want a top handle but do not have the training to get the training before putting their dealer on the spot.

The last thing the industry need is a ban on these saws.

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Good post, when I bought my top handle I waited until I had my CS-39 qualification, e-mailed the dealer and asked if they wanted me to send a copy of my certificate but they said no as ECHO don't require them to do so. When the saw arrived there was an 8" x 6" sticker on the box that said "Warning, For Use By Trained Tree Service Operators Only"