alternative brand tirfor winch ok?

[mattyboy]

Wire Rope Winch 800kg c/w Winch Rope | WRW800 | SafetyLiftinGear

 

Firstly do you think this brand will be as safe to use as the Tirfor brand or winches?

 

Also do you think the 800kg will be ok for most situations? It comes with a 8.3mm wire cable whereas the 1600kg winch comes with the 11mm wire rope?

[treefrog]

I ve got the 3400 and 1600 versions and there great. Loads about and easy to get spares. You won t go wrong.

[NFG]

Hi

 

I think that looks like an Ace winch, there was a thread dsicussing it a while ago, seems OK if I remember correctly, there are three capacities 800, 1600 & 3200Kg.

 

Am considering 1600Kg version, although Tirfor probably best at a price

 

Also available via Amazon

 

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Edited November 25, 2015 by NFG

[Haironyourchest]

I have the 800kg one, for € 145.00 and its been great. Hard to know how much it will pull by looking at the object to be pulled, unless you have an eye for these things, which Im starting to develop.

 

It will drag a massive tree across a field, but if there's a few stray broken branches catching the ground, forget it.

 

Likewise with pulling stumps. An unassuming stump can be the devil'd work to pull if it has a good root system. Its all about friction.....

 

I like the weight of mine, easy to carry the machine, cable, handle and straps all in one go. The 1600kg would be to heavy for me to do that. Also inch thing about the small puller is you can rig it with one hand at shoulder hight, holding the mating one handed while fussing with the shackle and strap with the other hand - hard but doable. Not so with the bigger machines, unless you are pretty butch.

 

I was worried that my clone would let me down on bigger pulls, and it has, so I also have big snatch blocks. Each block costs more than the tirfor., and the dyneema rope twice the price. I imagined myself doing complicated directional pulls etc, but so far haven't needed to. The nomad snatch blocks are too small a diameter for the rope and will mess it up. Homework required....

 

Heres an idea of what 2400kg will pull. The clone, with two blocks, thats tree time 800kg. I was fairly heavy on the handle, and it was just enough power to pull out the stump. Tried with the just the clone, then one snatch block, no cigar.

 

As you can see later in the clip, once I had the rootball free of the ground, I could skull-drag it with just the wee tirfor on its own, no block needed.

 

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[dan494]

That was the weirdest rocky training montage I've ever seen. What was that 'music'!?!

[Haironyourchest]

Captain Beef-Heart, song was "Bat Chain Puller". Not everybody's cup of coffee thats for sure!

 

I was handling a new genuine Tirfor 800 - the open frame model - in a crane-and-lifting place a few months back. Was crazy money, but way nicer than my Chinese clone, in fairness. You can really feel the quality. One day when Im rich I'll buy one of each and mount them on the wall......

Edited November 26, 2015 by Haironyourchest

[Darrin Turnbull]

I have the 800kg one, for € 145.00 and its been great. Hard to know how much it will pull by looking at the object to be pulled, unless you have an eye for these things, which Im starting to develop.

 

It will drag a massive tree across a field, but if there's a few stray broken branches catching the ground, forget it.

 

Likewise with pulling stumps. An unassuming stump can be the devil'd work to pull if it has a good root system. Its all about friction.....

 

I like the weight of mine, easy to carry the machine, cable, handle and straps all in one go. The 1600kg would be to heavy for me to do that. Also inch thing about the small puller is you can rig it with one hand at shoulder hight, holding the mating one handed while fussing with the shackle and strap with the other hand - hard but doable. Not so with the bigger machines, unless you are pretty butch.

 

I was worried that my clone would let me down on bigger pulls, and it has, so I also have big snatch blocks. Each block costs more than the tirfor., and the dyneema rope twice the price. I imagined myself doing complicated directional pulls etc, but so far haven't needed to. The nomad snatch blocks are too small a diameter for the rope and will mess it up. Homework required....

 

Heres an idea of what 2400kg will pull. The clone, with two blocks, thats tree time 800kg. I was fairly heavy on the handle, and it was just enough power to pull out the stump. Tried with the just the clone, then one snatch block, no cigar.

 

As you can see later in the clip, once I had the rootball free of the ground, I could skull-drag it with just the wee tirfor on its own, no block needed.

 

 

 

Tick tock tick tock.

[Stihllymok]

GP1600 Hand Winch with Wire Rope

 

Just bought one of these.

Good service and proper kit!

[Haironyourchest]

Another great thing about the clones is they use standard sizes of wire rope, so if you do kink or otherwise knacker your rope its cheap to replace. Any proper crane-supplies place will have the right kind. The genuine tirfor rope is a little bit thicker than standard and horribly expensive and genuine tirfors are designed to only use their special rope.