VT for the first time.

[Robert_S]

Thanks Rich i had not seen that, brilliant, i have been using the right technique its just im rubbish at it haha. i will persevere:biggrin:

[Ben90]

Hey there. I also started out with a blake's at college but was told about VTs and other closed-eye friction knots and just had to convert. I've got hold of a ocean polyester eye-to-eye cord and a pulley and tried the distel and VT, but it has a strange reluctance to bind when i want it to.

 

Is this just a characteristic of the friction rope or one of those things that will always happen with friction knots like these? I've tried a few variants, such as knut finishes but all have the same problem.

[Steve Bullman]

sounds like you need another wrap if you have enough cord. thats the problem with those ready made eye to eye cords. best off tying your own eyes

[combined tree services]

i gave the vt another go this week but still im not really getting on with it , i was thinking maybe it is the cord im using which is the yale silver felck (i think thats what its called anyway ) so i was wondering what size prussic cord you guys are using and what makes . cheers guys

[Rich Rule]

Armor pruss - 23 inches end to end - 3 wrap two braid VT - works great on Edelrid and Tachyion ropes...

 

i gave the vt another go this week but still im not really getting on with it , i was thinking maybe it is the cord im using which is the yale silver felck (i think thats what its called anyway ) so i was wondering what size prussic cord you guys are using and what makes . cheers guys

[SJH]

I was using beeline and doing my own knots had it spot on worked really well. Just got a OP eye to eye had to add another wrap as it was too long at first, it works really well smooth as silk I'm sure as it beds in it will tighten up a bit.

[Ben90]

I think I've fixed it. I was tinkering with the knot by my computer (as you do) and I think I wasn't finishing it correctly, it binds really nicely now and here's a picture to verify/criticise.

 

I guess the one way to test it is to go for a climb and practice my ascent as well. Luckily I've only been on a blake's for the one year I was using the college's kit (Yep, I'm a new kid converting early) Anyway, certainly one way to spend a sunny sunday afternoon!

Edited September 13, 2009 by Ben90

[Steve Bullman]

thats a v.t with a knut termination by the looks of it. you have loads of slack there to play with. that'll work as it is, but id personally lose that knut termination and just put in another wrap. there should be maybe 3inches of cord left between the last crossover and the eye

[Ben90]

Hmm. The slack does make it a bit inefficient. I tried the VT on its own but the Knut termination is the only thing that makes it bind properly. I wonder if i could add another coil and keep the knut termination, without it being too hard to pull through...

[Steve Bullman]

i think that would make it too hard