native oaks - id

[Kveldssanger]

Don't bash the Turkey Oak. It's also useful for timber produ.... oh, wait...

[felixthelogchopper]

Don't bash the Turkey Oak. It's also useful for timber produ.... oh, wait...

 

You could always burn it, eventually and with enough decent wood to do it.

[Paul Cleaver]

yes Turkey oak - a common widespread tree - introduced as an ornamental tree! -why?

[openspaceman]

Don't bash the Turkey Oak. It's also useful for timber produ.... oh, wait...

 

It's such a shame, to look at it seems to have such good form for timber production, presumably why it was brought here.

 

Only real use is as a cut and come again crop as it coppices freely and grows fast. Because it was so dense it was ideal from a cutters point of view when we supplied the pulp mill.

 

If we didn't have Q Cerris we wouldn't have knopper galls and our native oaks would produce more viable acorns but as an intermediate hose it only needs one every 50km to propagate the wasp.

[Kveldssanger]

It's such a shame, to look at it seems to have such good form for timber production, presumably why it was brought here.

 

Only real use is as a cut and come again crop as it coppices freely and grows fast. Because it was so dense it was ideal from a cutters point of view when we supplied the pulp mill.

 

If we didn't have Q Cerris we wouldn't have knopper galls and our native oaks would produce more viable acorns but as an intermediate hose it only needs one every 50km to propagate the wasp.

 

I read somewhere that Turkey Oak was intended to be a timber crop, and was lauded to be "the next best thing". It never was.

 

I also recall an account where someone acquired a woodland and bought it at a price that reflected the timber quality. They assumed it was English Oak, but turns out...

 

...

 

...it was Turkey Oak.

 

Many tears were likely shed that day.

[Yournamehere]

Quick nmonic for the names.

Alphabetical PQRS

Forwards

Pedunculate Quercus Rober

go to the end

Backwards

Sesile (you've just used rober so skip straight to q/quercus)

Sesile Quercus Petraea

[openspaceman]

I read somewhere that Turkey Oak was intended to be a timber crop, and was lauded to be "the next best thing". It never was.

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Yes I think so, the king of the belgians established plantations of it south of london.

 

Similarly the locust was imported from across the pond by a bit of a dellboy called cobbet and sold as a better hardwood to plant than oak.

 

I suspect both trees do better in their native environment??

[Yournamehere]

Similarly the locust was imported from across the pond by a bit of a dellboy called cobbet and sold as a better hardwood to plant than oak.

 

'A bit of a delboy'.

One of the greatest and truest englishmen ever 'a bit of a delboy'

Mr openspaceman, if I were wearing glasses, right now I would be looking at you over the top of them.

Hmmm.

[Kveldssanger]

Yes I think so, the king of the belgians established plantations of it south of london.

 

Similarly the locust was imported from across the pond by a bit of a dellboy called cobbet and sold as a better hardwood to plant than oak.

 

I suspect both trees do better in their native environment??

 

Indeed they do.

 

Fun fact on timber production in this country: hardwoods grow best with a fast growth rate, with the ratio of earlywood to latewood being skewed in favour of latewood with regards to such fast growth - the UK's climate is suited to fast growth rates, thereby producing good quality timber will fewer vessels. Conversely, softwoods aren't of any decent value in this country as a timber crop (cedars, in particular) as the fast growth rate favours more earlywood formation, which means more tracheids (and lower quality timber as a result).

 

(according to Peter Thomas in a talk he did at the Chelsea Physic Gardens).

[Kveldssanger]

These introductions also remind me of the old early 1900s "eh, the grey squirrel will never take on that much in the UK, don't get yer' knickers in a twist!". We all know how that went...