1.5-2t digger and flail

[Dean O]

been thinking of getting a pedestrian flail, been impressed with the kersten so far, haven't looked at scag yet, but I'm put off by a machine that is restricted to a single operation - for those flails which are mounted to 2 wheeled tractors I simply don't have the use for other implements

 

however I can see a need for lifting, grabbing, moving - first thought flail and small skidsteer - no response from boxer yet, but obviously going to be a large outlay anyway (albeit a very productive setup)

 

so how about combining something like a Takeuchi TB016 Mini Digger (£7k?)

 

with a 800mm Robustrack flail mower as seen on the bay (£1600)

 

oilflow seems to be compatible - and while I imagine would be a compromise against a dedicated machine might be a handy tool for similar money to a new good scag/ferris/kersten?

 

anyone give me some technical insight (as I have none) or reasons for it being a crap idea?

anyone tried or currently run this sort of set up?

 

many thanks

Dean

[TIMON]

Dean,

Never run a 360/flail set up but getting rid of our Scagg was a big mistake. I don't know any other machine that can cut chest high brambles etc.. and mow a lawn to a reasonable standard (and leave stripes!)

Timon

[aspenarb]

been thinking of getting a pedestrian flail, been impressed with the kersten so far, haven't looked at scag yet, but I'm put off by a machine that is restricted to a single operation - for those flails which are mounted to 2 wheeled tractors I simply don't have the use for other implements

 

however I can see a need for lifting, grabbing, moving - first thought flail and small skidsteer - no response from boxer yet, but obviously going to be a large outlay anyway (albeit a very productive setup)

 

so how about combining something like a Takeuchi TB016 Mini Digger (£7k?)

 

with a 800mm Robustrack flail mower as seen on the bay (£1600)

 

oilflow seems to be compatible - and while I imagine would be a compromise against a dedicated machine might be a handy tool for similar money to a new good scag/ferris/kersten?

 

anyone give me some technical insight (as I have none) or reasons for it being a crap idea?

anyone tried or currently run this sort of set up?

 

many thanks

Dean

 

I would suggest hiring/trying one prior to purchase. A 360 run flail on an unmodified machine needs to retain at least 50% of the advertised flow to run the machine. So when looking at flow rates size the flail on that basis, getting the best out of a 360 and flail is a fine art. Its a juggle between power to the head and retaining fluid flow for machine operation, it takes a skilled operator to get the best out of it. Bolt on powerpacks or a separate engine driven pump sorts it properly but thats another subject.

 

 

Bob

[Dean O]

Hmmm, Thanks for the info - that's a shame. - I'm still fixated by the range of things I could utilise a digger for tho'

 

doing a little bit more research...

 

Takeuchi TB016: Hydraulic Pump Flow Capacity 8.7 gal/min 32.8 L/min

the flail (model: LS TE-LT) has three sizes: 600mm – 800mm + 1000mm these require flows of 17 – 35 + 50 L/min respectably so perhaps a little bit of hope for the smallest of the range (not the one id instinctively go for tho')

[Matthew Storrs]

I would be very wary of this combination myself tb016 + 800mm flail. in order to use the flail efficiently you will want to be able to slew and flail at the same time plus small arm movements to.

I used to have a Takeuchi tb016 and as an example if I was tracking along then arm movements at the same time would be very limited/low power.

Not saying it can't be done- but take the stated specs with a pinch of salt, there are a lot of variables to consider.

[dumper]

I have a ferris flail and a tb016 which had a flail until I sold it not enough oil to move and cut

[TMB]

My old boss has a 6t kubota with a 800 flail on it was useless pump turned up was better but you still couldn't slew or track