How much should a Foreman earn?

[skyhuck]

Crikey if I was in any industry and employing 8 people in my company full time I'd expect at least 35k a year for myself!

 

I employ one and I am on a good bit more than that.

[Billy]

I know in the past 10 years running a tree business i have never paid myself 35k.. and we are running 8 guys full time at the moment.

 

 

There we go.....

[skyhuck]

I guess the difference with tree work is that there is always a cool toy/bit of machinery that eats the profit!

 

Or some just seem to do it for the love, not the money

[skyhuck]

There we go.....

 

I would not want to be going there……..

[Billy]

I would not want to be going there……..

 

 

I'm sure the relatively low figure is due to a high percentage of re investment, but still if a decent businessman is paying himself less than that in this trade running 2-3 teams few employees can be worthy of more.

You seem to just be playing devils advocate skyhuck? Or do you genuinely believe it would be realistic for lead climbers/foremen in an employed role to be paid upwards of £40kPA?

[skyhuck]

I'm sure the relatively low figure is due to a high percentage of re investment, but still if a decent businessman is paying himself less than that in this trade running 2-3 teams few employees can be worthy of more.

You seem to just be playing devils advocate skyhuck? Or do you genuinely believe it would be realistic for lead climbers/foremen in an employed role to be paid upwards of £40kPA?

 

If a firm is charging out a team of two at £550+ per day, paying the leader of that team £180 per day does not seem unreasonable for the right person.

[5 shires]

If a firm is charging out a team of two at £550+ per day, paying the leader of that team £180 per day does not seem unreasonable for the right person.

 

This thread has come full circle, at the beginning I said paying a foreman/ lead climber/ organiser/ good people skills person who represents the company on site should be on around £180/£190 a day. I didn't get shot down in flames but many disagreed with me. Glad you on sme wave length As me SKY.

[Stephen Blair]

Sounds a good package to me.

If someone offered me £30k a year, mobile phone and a vehicle I'd be happy .

An 8 hour day, that means hands are dirty for about 5! Compare to self employment that's a half day!

[Tom D]

Doesn't seem a bad offer, but there are always other things to consider. The arb world is a goldfish bowl and some companies have a reputation for one thing or another, not saying this is the case here, but if you have a reputation as a hard man to work for, or all your kit is crap or all your jobs are crap or whatever that could affect things.

 

Good staff are hard to find for sure, I prefer to train them up for managerial roles, I'd hate to have to bring in someone at that level.

 

RE the offer, don't give them an allowance, just get them a phone, same goes for PPE and climbing kit.

[beechwood]

If a firm is charging out a team of two at £550+ per day, paying the leader of that team £180 per day does not seem unreasonable for the right person.

 

 

In my opinion and after 15years of running a firm and looking at figures if your wage bill for staff on site doing the work exceeds 30% of charge out rate, then you will not be making a reasonable profit margin on your turnover. May of course be different for smaller firms where boss working on site everyday, no office or premises etc.