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We recovered some Ash logs varying from 12" to nearly 24" diameter, they'd been lying for at least four years since felling but when sawn I found the inside as wet as wet. It was well preserved though, smelled not much different from fresh.

 

The species quoted as quick to dry, Beech, Sycamore, Cherry are all diffuse porous. Is that a common factor?

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Found it and not exactly as I remembered but useful background.

Its from my regular bed time reading - Carbohydrate Reserves in plants- synthesis and regulation.

 

"According to the predominant carbohydrate storage compounds, starch or fat, trees are classified as "starch trees" like most ring-porous angiosperms, and some conifers like species of abies and picea, and "fat trees" like most diffuse-porous angiosperms and species of pinus."

 

Sad but I find this quite interesting!

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I wonder if some of it is down to having a higher equilibrium water content than other woods(?), and some to better than average retention by the bark ( what the bark's for after all).

 

Based on a very small sample for private use (5-ish cube per year)

I have had trouble drying Ash in exactly the same locations that I've successfully seasoned Oak, Hawthorne, Sycamore (that ones easy), cherry Laurel of the same size.

 

The Ash is still there three years later, the others are long gone.

 

I am having better luck with some Ash I felled early last year which was left until the bark rotted and then was split and stacked.

 

I'm in a wet climate.

 

I bet someone will quote that poem in a mo.. :laugh1:

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IME, Ash does burn very well, even when green.

 

25 years ago when I knew very little about trees or timber, I was felling trees to heat my own home, I felled an Ash, still in leaf, it was hollow, the first thing I was struck by was how easily it split. We burned some pretty soon after felling, I can still remember saying to the farmer who land the tree was on, "its incredible, its like there petrol in the wood it burns so well"

 

Anyone who's been in the job long enough to have done "burning up" before chippers where as common, knows that Ash was by far the easiest brash to burn, burning fast and hot.

 

never a true word said!!! try starting a woodland fire with anything else,,you young ens have lots to learn....:thumbup1:

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I'm not disputing that ash is great firewood, or that the brash burns really well blah blah blah.

 

What I'm disputing is that green ash burns well.

I don't think it does, and I can't understand people's mania to have it to burn immediately, the day I deliver it!

 

Delabodge and Huck, you old boys must struggle like buggery to get a fire going if you're working in chestnut or hornbeam coppice!

Do you walk over to the next wood and fell an ash?!!!!!

 

That crappy firewood poem also slates elm, saying that even the flames are cold.

As Peter said, dead standing elm is pretty hard to beat.

 

 

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I'm not disputing that ash is great firewood, or that the brash burns really well blah blah blah.

 

What I'm disputing is that green ash burns well.

I don't think it does, and I can't understand people's mania to have it to burn immediately, the day I deliver it!

 

Delabodge and Huck, you old boys must struggle like buggery to get a fire going if you're working in chestnut or hornbeam coppice!

Do you walk over to the next wood and fell an ash?!!!!!

 

That crappy firewood poem also slates elm, saying that even the flames are cold.

As Peter said, dead standing elm is pretty hard to beat.

 

 

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HI MARK your right there mate that dead standing great stuff mate :thumbup1:thanks jon

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