2 stroke oil

[Stubby]

 

And not wanting to start something but there are plenty of others about every bit as good as Redline.

 

[TimberCutterDartmoor]

And not wanting to start something but there are plenty of others about every bit as good as Redline.

 

I don't think so!

 

Go on then, make some suggestions for me to counterattack

 

Expect to see some of the Silkolene ester oils making an appearance...

 

Motul 800 too.

 

But when it's REALLY HOT, RL all the way.

Edited November 12, 2014 by TimberCutterDartmoor

[wrsni]

Expect to see some of the Silkolene ester oils making an appearance...

 

Silkolene is shite man, wouldn't have it about the place. Only popular because it's easy to get wholesale and has a massive retail mark up.

 

OK, I'm not going to run down your Redline, no personal experience of it but don't doubt that it's probably very good. My beef is the claim that it's not only the best out there but by a considerable margin.

 

For myself I'd put Castrol two stroke oils up against anything in any conditions. I know people who've run GP bikes on them at all levels, who've won TT's and Manx GP's running it and are now running it again in Classic TT's. People who've spent a **** load of money rebuilding an old 2-stroke just for classic runs and are quite happy to trust it to Castrol. Know a guy who flys microlites, everyone in the club he's in uses Castrol and wouldn't even consider anything else.

 

Somebody comes over from the continent however and chances are he'll be using Valvoline and will just have as much faith in it as we do in the Castrol, and he's probably not wrong. Americans love their Bel-Ray and Yamalube.

 

The Italians, who know a thing or six about high performance two strokes in both karts and minibikes are big in to Bardahl and Wladoil. One renown Italian two stroke engine builder who I knew well was so convinced by the merits of Wladoil "R" that he sent me a case of it to use convinced that I'd never ever use anything else. It's still sitting unopened!

 

And I've never even mentioned Shell, Putoline, Morris, or Motorex, all of whom have their followers and who are quite prepared to trust their machinery and in some cases their lives to the oil.

 

It's a big claim to back up that all of us are wrong!

[CJM]

If you used aspen you could have 2 cigarettes instead!

 

Are you crazy!! That'll danage my lungs and my bank balance

 

My old firm ran aspen for years and I was never convinced, it made the 200ts perform very poorly we eventually got them to switch back to 2 stroke and the saws ran fine.

I won't buy it because it's far to expensive, i get free petrol I only have to add the 2 stroke, chain oil, chains, files, parts and eventually new saws with my massive tool allowance the joys of a utility cutter

[GardenKit]

When does an oil become not good enough? And do other oils reach that condition before Redline?

 

I doubt it, and lets face it, if Redline was so brilliant we would all be using it and all dealers would sell it. I have never even seen the stuff.

 

In our industry all the major Horticultural oils are generally good enough, in that if they protect against wear and failure that is OK.

 

However, times are changing, and what is becoming increasingly important is to have an oil that will bond with Ethanol. Most major players do not. This leaves 10% of the fuel mix with no 2 stroke oil content, and as this 10% is settles at the bottom of the tank then the first fuel that is drawn from the tank has no oil.

 

Does Redline bond with Ethanol?

[Stubby]

I always give the can a good shake before every fill up

[swinny]

Anyhow......

 

I went for stihl ultra hp green.

 

You lot love a good debate

[GardenKit]

I always give the can a good shake before every fill up

And that is very good practice Stubby.

It redistributes the Ethanol throughout the mix. But that Ethanol may still have no bonded oil unless the oil is specially formulated.

 

If Redline oil bonds with Ethanol then of course there is no problem.

[Stubby]

And that is very good practice Stubby.

It redistributes the Ethanol throughout the mix. But that Ethanol may still have no bonded oil unless the oil is specially formulated.

 

If Redline oil bonds with Ethanol then of course there is no problem.

 

Ethanol is a problem full stop . I avoid supermarket fuel . Pay a bit extra for Esso from our local forecourt .

[TimberCutterDartmoor]

And that is very good practice Stubby.

It redistributes the Ethanol throughout the mix. But that Ethanol may still have no bonded oil unless the oil is specially formulated.

 

If Redline oil bonds with Ethanol then of course there is no problem.

 

Yep, RL "bonds" with ethanol. :biggrin: it's ester based. I've been racing with RL since the 70's.