Roundup to be banned in the UK, ?

[spikeymikey]

Ehhh

 

You cant eat anything that's been sprayed with roundup

 

Are you joking?? what about oilseed rape, wheat, peas, beans?? then there is the residue in the straw that the cattle will eat and it goes on! and the roundup is only the half of it!

[treequip]

You already are....

 

 

 

If you spray something with Glyphosate it dies. Farmers don't spray Glyphosate on stuff they want to sell because if its dead and crusty people wont buy it.

[SteveA]

And not at current prices either.

I am able to grow food, lots of it, without any chemicals. I would need to charge about 3 times as much as I do now though.

I expect this goes for most farmers.

The food industry in this country is based entirely on low cost food and still there are people saying they can't afford food.

 

Your current farming system may dictate you would need to charge 3 times as much if you didn't use chemicals. Yes, I can believe that.

[monkeybusiness]

If you spray something with Glyphosate it dies. Farmers don't spray Glyphosate on stuff they want to sell because if its dead and crusty people wont buy it.

 

They routinely spray cereal crops off prior to harvest to assist crop drying.

[Agi-Smash]

Fine, ban round up. Plenty of other branded glyphosphate based products out there.

Nearly all combinable crops are sprayed with the old 'liquid sunshine' before harvest. And again after to burn off regrowth, id rather eat crop been sprayed with glyphosphate than the old alternatives we used to use. Mainly acids on potatoes etc.

You have to have it in agriculture otherwise you just would not get the yield or the quality. It would be such a dirty sample, youd be making your bread with thistles, docks and nettle seeds......mmmmmm. Sell it in health food shops for a fortune.

[SteveA]

If you spray something with Glyphosate it dies. Farmers don't spray Glyphosate on stuff they want to sell because if its dead and crusty people wont buy it.

 

See my earlier link. Roundup doesn't 'vanish'

[spikeymikey]

They routinely spray cereal crops off prior to harvest to assist crop drying.

 

Yeah I do it every year on the rape as routine and sometimes in the wheat, barley or beans either to aid even ripening or to get rid of any rubbish (weeds) in the crop that slow combining down. your not supposed to spray when the grain is soft (30% mc or more) as the grain can absorb it at this stage. If not roundup sometimes use reglone which is a harvest aid and dries the crop out within days but is much more expensive and in crops such as osr it can make the pods too brittle and you will be getting pod shatter and losses 10ft in front of the combine. We couldn't farm like we do without glyphosate, a very different practise would be needed.

[Peasgood]

Your current farming system may dictate you would need to charge 3 times as much if you didn't use chemicals. Yes, I can believe that.

 

It isn't "my" system, it is "our" system. You included.

You can not have the society we have here now without farming that includes chemical use. Some organic farming is fine for the few that want that lifestyle choice, because that is what it is. You can not have adequate low price food for the masses without using chemicals.

You may argue that "low price" is not what is really required but there would have to be an enormous change in the whole of our society to change that. This isn't going to happen peacefully.

Turn the news on, and see what they are talking about. The rise of Aldi and the fall of Tesco are front page news right now.

[Agi-Smash]

But in reality what are the options?

Just suppose i have 40 acres of oil seed rape i need to harvest.

Have 4000 eastern europeans hand picking weeds?

[Peasgood]

But in reality what are the options?

Just suppose i have 40 acres of oil seed rape i need to harvest.

Have 4000 eastern europeans hand picking weeds?

yes, that is exactly what I think the alternative is. Shouldn't need to be Eastern Europeans though, we have plenty of folk here already that aren't doing a right lot.