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[Justme]

On 20/12/2019 at 09:21, openspaceman said:

I didn't imply there was, as I said the gross weight, and as we were discussing mini artics this would be the gross combined weight, would be 7 tonnes on a B+E taken before 2013 IIRC, as after that the trailer is restricted to 3.5 tonnes.

 

As we have discussed before  it is feasible to have a trailer larger than 3.5 tonnes as long as the brakes are applied with the vehicles service brake, on the earlier licence, as long as the towing vehicle is less than 3.5 tonnes MAM. Finding such a vehicle seems to be the problem.

 

@Justme found a relevant advisory that stated the weight superimposed on the artic tractor did not contribute to the gross weight of the trailer for driving licence purposes but I'm not sure this is the same for the 1024 kg limit for operator's licence. Again once you exceed the 7.5 tonnes GCW you must always use the tachograph.

If you passed your BE before 19-01-2013 you have the same trailer limits as people with grandfather rights.

 

Your second point makes no sense. The real weight of a trailer is not a licence factor so the applied load would not affect any licence condition re the trailers MLPM.

 

It would not have any thing to do with the unladen weight for O licences as again the applied load is not a factor in the unladen weight.

 

[dumper]

6 minutes ago, Justme said:

Er cars can need a tacho.

 

A 4x4 is a car a landrover is a car. Once coupled up to a trailer is the combined is over 23500kg you might be in to tacho use if its for work.

A landrover is a dual purpose vehicle whatever difference that makes

[Justme]

5 minutes ago, dumper said:

A landrover is a dual purpose vehicle whatever difference that makes

Not all of them will be.

The posh end will just be cars.

Some are pure commercial & DP does not affect tacho it can affect O licence.

 

The DP is for carrying passengers & loads plus 4x4 affects it too.

[donnk]

14 hours ago, Justme said:

Er cars can need a tacho.

 

A 4x4 is a car a landrover is a car. Once coupled up to a trailer is the combined is over 23500kg you might be in to tacho use if its for work.

correct some trailers when loaded.

 

but never a car.

[donnk]

14 hours ago, dumper said:

A landrover is a dual purpose vehicle whatever difference that makes

ah the window tax.

 

Whether you have the rear windows blanked on a disco 3/4 governs your speed limit. 

 

If they are blanked  you are a van and have to go 50 on A roads and dual carriageways,  if you roll them down your a car and can do 60/70.

 

The upside of this nonsense is blanked windows pay cheap road tax!

[Rough Hewn]

I know a guy who drives a Ford ranger with a tacho.
Pulls a HUGE trailer with it.

[roseyweb]

I have a fine and court appearance to prove cars need tachos if towing more than 100k from base 

[josharb87]

16 minutes ago, donnk said:

correct some trailers when loaded.

 

but never a car.

Except for if your commercially towing....

[donnk]

7 minutes ago, roseyweb said:

I have a fine and court appearance to prove cars need tachos if towing more than 100k from base 

yup.

 

not cars though.

[roseyweb]

Yes ford ranger towing a 3 tonner