Do we need drivers CPC?

[Billy]

I have just applied for an O License and have been getting conflicting information with regard to CPC. I was under the impression that as tree workers we didn't require it as driving is not our main job but some sources have told me other wise but weren't sure. So could the other operators on here quote some legislation to clarify this or at least tell me what you do and why .

 

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[Little Steven]

Hi there!

Are we talking CPC as a driver or CPC for 'O' licence purpose?

Steve

[bob]

Yes you do

[treequip]

Yes you do

 

 

https://www.gov.uk/driver-cpc-exemptions-examples

 

Vehicles carrying material or equipment to be used in the course of the driver’s work

 

You don’t need Driver CPC if you’re carrying equipment or material that you’ll use in the course of your work, provided that driving the vehicle is not the main part of your job.

 

This includes:

•trade tools

•goods such as building materials or cables to be used by the driver in the course of their work

•extra crew like a mechanics mate or any other person needed for the job

 

Driver A

 

Driver A is a mobile lorry fitter. They drive a vehicle from one operator’s site to another site where they take their tools from the vehicle to do their main activity of servicing lorries. They do not need Driver CPC. If they use engine diagnostic kit that’s fixed within the vehicle, they would also be covered by the exemption because the vehicle carries material or equipment for their use on site.

 

Driver B

 

Driver B is a self-employed bricklayer and drives their lorry to a building site with a load of bricks. They unload the bricks and use them in the construction of a house. They don’t need to have Driver CPC because driving the lorry is not their main activity and they’re carrying materials for their use in the course of bricklaying

 

 

You can probably cite the "Driver B" example. Your main job is not driving the truck

[Billy]

Hi there!

Are we talking CPC as a driver or CPC for 'O' licence purpose?

Steve

 

 

Either, do I need it as an operator and do my drivers need it?

[Al Duffill]

You do, it's crazy, I've done 3 sessions/ days and covered the same unit twice, I could do the same units 5 times and get through CPC, as I understand. Tis quite an insight to our full time trucking buddies tho.

 

 

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[treequip]

Either, do I need it as an operator and do my drivers need it?

 

As an operator it will depend on the class of your "O" licence.

 

If you are on a UK restricted licence you don't need a CPC holder.

 

If you and your drivers don't drive as a main occupation you don't need driver CPC

[PeteB]

I asked a simikar question over driver cpc. I still get conflicting answers too.

 

One lobby says "not needed as driving is not your work, and your vehicle is less than 3500kgs even though combined mass is more". The other group says that as "a tacho is fitted, you do need to complete the driver cpc!".

 

Right confused.......

[Billy]

It's restricted but anywhere in Europe, obviously as tree workers driving isn't our main job, but I didn't find an example to suit on the website.

 

I.e Driver A drives the vehicle to his place of work using it to Carry the tools of his trade then fills the vehicle with the product( some might call this waste) of his work and drives homem. Driver A does not need CPC

[treequip]

I asked a simikar question over driver cpc. I still get conflicting answers too.

 

One lobby says "not needed as driving is not your work, and your vehicle is less than 3500kgs even though combined mass is more". The other group says that as "a tacho is fitted, you do need to complete the driver cpc!".

 

Right confused.......

 

The requirement for driver CPC has nothing to do with the vehicles equipment.

 

If you took the tacho out of one of Eddie Stobart's trucks the driver would still need a driver CPC