The Taxman-

[skyhuck]

ha ha, the mods getting all hevay on a harmless subject, nothing changes!

 

This effects all of us in business, and socially, as for the pathetic excuses of benefits of paying tax what a sheep! Huck have you really any idea how this economy works?

 

Basicaly the bankers print money (with no backing) its a fiat currency, meaning it is worthless paper, no longer redeemable in gold nor silver as it once was.

 

All the money printed/created is loaned at interest (usury, which huck will know about as an ex witness) this basicaly means all the money created is debt, and there isnt enough at any time in order to dispose of the debt because the interest doesnt exist, the money supply has to be expanded, continuously, hence the BS surrounding sustainable business, its NOT! this system needs to be a growth based system.

 

If this is true, can you explain to me why they buy government bonds?????

Edited April 28, 2014 by skyhuck

[kevinjohnsonmbe]

 

I hope the link works.....

 

Word!

[Paul Jenks]

The system we live in and around is a system. An imperfect one and a system nonetheless. We could spend the rest of our lives endeavouring to change certain aspects that directly, adversely affect our purpose or we could sit back and expect others to do it for us and bleat about the lack of progress. We could spend the rest of our lives endeavouring to change things that matter little and make no difference to the colour of the universe.

As is the way with any system, no matter how well engineered, there will be winners and losers. With no humans there would be ebbs and flows in the balance of flora and fauna across the globe. I feel it's highly conceited to think we, humans, are able to create systems that are any better than those that evolve in nature. Therefore, I'll concern myself with the small systems I am able to affect and through an iterative or Newton-Raphson process arrive at better, though nowhere near perfect, solutions.

There will, inevitably, be winners and losers here too. If any of my companies or the companies of folk I know have the misfortune to be raped by HMRC I'll be indignant and upset and possibly angry enough to post righteous condemnation on a web forum. I will also move on and start again. Life's too short. Sh*t happens and sometimes it'll happen to me.

I'm sure there must be an insurance policy for being raped by HMRC. I wonder which financial institution underwrites it. Probably one based in the Bahamas.

[Alycidon]

The powers being given to "corporations" at the moment are quite frightening, Monsanto now have more power than the U.S president.

 

The odd thing about taxation is that no one in the law society or tax office seems to be able to point anyone ive spoken to towards the actual law that clearly states all men and woman are lawfully required to pay taxes!

 

go figure.

 

I believe its called manufactured consent

 

 

 

I have a friend who is doing a lot and I mean a lot of work on the English Bill of Rights of 1689.

Avalon Project - English Bill of Rights 1689

 

This bill over rules all laws and regulations subsequently introduced. He tells me that all tax is voluntary, the govt does not have any power to force you to pay tax, the only way they can is by you agreeing to pay, usually by signing some cleverly worded form.

 

We also all have the rights to bear arms, he has told his firearms licensing office that he will no longer pay for a firearms licence, this has been accepted. He does not tax his car, cars were not around in 1689 so car tax is illegal, this has also been accepted eventually.

 

All attempts to use the power of the courts against him have failed on teh basis the the authorities do not have an agreed signed contract from him agreeing to pay whatever. He represents himself in court.

 

Personally I dont have the bottle to do what he is doing but good luck to him. I feel there is no point in hiding or trying to hide anything, I like to sleep at night.

 

A

[Paul Jenks]

I have a friend who is doing a lot and I mean a lot of work on the English Bill of Rights of 1689.

Avalon Project - English Bill of Rights 1689

 

This bill over rules all laws and regulations subsequently introduced. He tells me that all tax is voluntary, the govt does not have any power to force you to pay tax, the only way they can is by you agreeing to pay, usually by signing some cleverly worded form.

 

We also all have the rights to bear arms, he has told his firearms licensing office that he will no longer pay for a firearms licence, this has been accepted. He does not tax his car, cars were not around in 1689 so car tax is illegal, this has also been accepted eventually.

 

All attempts to use the power of the courts against him have failed on teh basis the the authorities do not have an agreed signed contract from him agreeing to pay whatever. He represents himself in court.

 

Personally I dont have the bottle to do what he is doing but good luck to him. I feel there is no point in hiding or trying to hide anything, I like to sleep at night.

 

A

 

I'm sure there are certain aspects of his position that are laudable. And hats off to him for his research.

However, he uses many of the systems my taxes pay for. So whilst his zeal appears to be founded in the emancipation of the proletariat, his efforts are costing me money, so he doesn't get my vote.

[skyhuck]

Our system is certainly the worst system…………………except for all the other systems, much like democracy I guess.

[High Scale]

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[Tony Croft aka hamadryad]

I have a friend who is doing a lot and I mean a lot of work on the English Bill of Rights of 1689.

Avalon Project - English Bill of Rights 1689

 

This bill over rules all laws and regulations subsequently introduced. He tells me that all tax is voluntary, the govt does not have any power to force you to pay tax, the only way they can is by you agreeing to pay, usually by signing some cleverly worded form.

 

We also all have the rights to bear arms, he has told his firearms licensing office that he will no longer pay for a firearms licence, this has been accepted. He does not tax his car, cars were not around in 1689 so car tax is illegal, this has also been accepted eventually.

 

All attempts to use the power of the courts against him have failed on teh basis the the authorities do not have an agreed signed contract from him agreeing to pay whatever. He represents himself in court.

 

Personally I dont have the bottle to do what he is doing but good luck to him. I feel there is no point in hiding or trying to hide anything, I like to sleep at night.

 

A

 

thanks for the link, hadnt found that one in al the work ive been doing on the subject.