what does a firewood sale cost you in timber?

[RealEstate]

... Of course this will shrink during drying so will not make 1m3 when dry.

 

For interest these are the densities of the wet wood from the 3 samples I measured.

Beech 1040kg m3

Do logs shink appreciably when dried? Surely up to half the space in a cube of logs is air, so 'shrinkage' due to wood drying must be fairly neglible?

 

Does new cut Beech really sink?

Edited January 12, 2014 by RealEstate

[R5log]

This is simple calculation I use to work out costs, of course there's a few variables but it's there or thereabouts. I think if more firewood sellers actually worked out their actual costs you would see prices would go up significantly

 

Timber at roadside per ton £45.00

Haulage per ton £10.00 £250 per 25t load

Total in yard cost per ton £55.00

Convert to cubic metre1.5Based on 1 ton equalling 1.5m3 when sawn to 10" and split

Cost per cubic metre £36.67

 

Cost per load before processed £55.00 Based on 1.5m3 per delivery

Convert to firewood £25.00 Based on load per hour at £25 p/h

Delivery £25.00 Based on 1 delivery per hour at £25 p/h

Total cost: £105.00

 

I'm unclear on Woodworks figures above. If a 1.13 cubic metre crate filled with Beech & Ash weighs 550kg then where does the Beech 1040kg per cm come from??

 

Think that comes from cord measurements

[gensetsteve]

I worked my cost of cord out at about £38 a cube, sell £115. By the time all the other costs are covered I am not making much. About 5% of my of my turnover is firewood, yet it accounts for probably 15% of my time.

 

 

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Thats how it works with firewood the less you do the more money you take home.

[gensetsteve]

This is simple calculation I use to work out costs, of course there's a few variables but it's there or thereabouts. I think if more firewood sellers actually worked out their actual costs you would see prices would go up significantly

 

Timber at roadside per ton £45.00

Haulage per ton £10.00 £250 per 25t load

Total in yard cost per ton £55.00

Convert to cubic metre 1.5 Based on 1 ton equalling 1.5m3 when sawn to 10" and split

Cost per cubic metre £36.67

 

Cost per load before processed £55.00 Based on 1.5m3 per delivery

Convert to firewood £25.00 Based on load per hour at £25 p/h

Delivery £25.00 Based on 1 delivery per hour at £25 p/h

Total cost: £105.00

 

I'm unclear on Woodworks figures above. If a 1.13 cubic metre crate filled with Beech & Ash weighs 550kg then where does the Beech 1040kg per cm come from??

 

 

These figures work roughly the same as mine earlier. The only bit I dont get is beech cant weigh more than water otherwise it would sink.

[openspaceman]

The only bit I dont get is beech cant weigh more than water otherwise it would sink.

 

Chuck a freshly felled beech ring into a butt and tell me what happens

[Mortimer Firewood]

Hi have just spent/wasted the morning weighing an IBC of wet logs. This was short stuff at sub 8" mainly beech but some oak and ash. The total wieght of logs in a crate was 550kg and a crate holds 1.13m3 when level so 486kg per m3. Of course this will shrink during drying so will not make 1m3 when dry.

 

For interest these are the densities of the wet wood from the 3 samples I measured.

 

Beech 1040kg m3

Ash 826kg m3

Oak 801kg m3

 

A picture of the crate of logs

 

Where did you get this info as when I have a lorry load of oak it's never full when I have a lorry load of ash it's stacked above the pins and only 25t . I can't believe the figures are correct.

[gensetsteve]

Chuck a freshly felled beech ring into a butt and tell me what happens

 

I cant be arsed what happens ?

[R5log]

Oak heavier than Ash????

Very roughly Oak and Beech on a lorry will be 26 cubic metres Ash 33 cubic metres green weight

[Wood wasp]

Might be wrong but I think Greenheart is only timber that is denser than water.

[Johny Walker]

miine works out @ 20% which im happy with ,