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[Ds Tree services]

I take it you have looked in to this and you know what the government have done...... my personal opinion would be that you would be more at risk if 2 59yo firefighters where expected to get you out a burning house.. I know at that age I will struggle but if I am to retire early I will lose a massive % of my pention and 50% if I get finished on ill health (failing my yearly medical).. Go on the FBU website and I am sure that you will think again.

[skyhuck]

I don't think when the brigade are on strike they would watch people die in burning buildings Daniel, although the media seem to portray it this way.

A few of my mates are in, and the truth is somewhat different.

 

They won't see them from the picket line, unless the fire is across the road.

 

If they are striking, they put people at risk, no ifs, no buts, really annoys me when they strike but claim no one is in danger, its nonsense!!

[Andy Collins]

I'm not sure the FB members are putting lives at risk. This would be a bit of a shot in the foot for them to do. While I was in hospital, there was a strike called and all ancillary staff were called out. This meant porters, cleaners, HCAs and other support staff. To my knowledge, they only went out and supported the strikes on their official breaks, then came back to carry on with their work. A porter even said to me that it wouldn't be fair to the patient to deny him vital scans, or food to be left in the kitchens just for their own gains. I would guess, (I don't know) that firefighters would probably "strike" in their free time these days. The military standing in with Green Goddesses does no strike a favour.

I've never agreed with striking to get your way, for any reason, if the pay isn't right, leave, if the conditions don't suit, leave. If every disgruntled employee left, things would have to change to attract staff in the future. This also has the added bonus that tbh I wouldn't want whinging whining people working with me anyway.

[Daniel Jiggins]

I take it you have looked in to this and you know what the government have done...... my personal opinion would be that you would be more at risk if 2 59yo firefighters where expected to get you out a burning house.. I know at that age I will struggle but if I am to retire early I will lose a massive % of my pention and 50% if I get finished on ill health (failing my yearly medical).. Go on the FBU website and I am sure that you will think again.

 

Well I now have to work until I reach 70 to gain state pension I won't be fit enough to climb trees at that age, do I stand outside the dole office with a fire stamping my feet no I get on with it.

 

Also some newly signed up fire fighters are striking when they are aware of the changes before joining?

 

You are paid more than the soldiers I know of a family who's dad was serving in afghan and on his return he was covering the strike I'm sure he would much rather be with his family?

 

Then there's the nurses.....

 

Just my opinion, We all have one :-)

[mark_goldfinch]

If the strike was not taking place could a engine of got there those few crucial miniutes earlier?

 

Those crucial minutes were lost years ago mate in when the government raised attendance times to meet there cuts. All so they can say "yes we still meet our attendance times even with half the personnel'.

[Daniel Jiggins]

Those crucial minutes were lost years ago mate in when the government raised attendance times to meet there cuts. All so they can say "yes we still meet our attendance times even with half the personnel'.

 

Yes I don't agree with all the cuts including cutting the police, You hear conflicting stories from both sides I just believe in this day and age there must be a more proactive way of getting your points across rather than striking.

 

I think all the Emergency services should be treated fair and paid well for the jobs they do I just personally think striking is not in the best interest of public safety.

[treeminkies]

mull29: i thought it was a profession ( arborist ) just like the one u forgot on your list PLASTERER im one of them as well, big demand for plasterers but money crap, the attitude in cornwall is ' you wont get that money down here' or 'how much' it seems people just dont wanna pay the 'going' rate now if you were a professional........... go on try saying it ' i am a professional ' see can charge more and feel better about stinky job.......

[Ds Tree services]

Just to clear a few things up. Pretend you brought a house 10 yr ago and the agreement was you paid £500 per month for 20 years and then the house is yours..... You with me so far... Then after 13 yr of paying you £500 your told you now need to pay more per month and you will need to pay that higher rate for an extra 5 yr.... That's basically why we are on strike, we are not doing it to put people in danger and we certainly don't want to be on strike..... We are already looking at ways of taking industrial action other than strike and my personal opinion is that the strkes will finish early in the new year.

[skyhuck]

Just to clear a few things up. Pretend you brought a house 10 yr ago and the agreement was you paid £500 per month for 20 years and then the house is yours..... You with me so far... Then after 13 yr of paying you £500 your told you now need to pay more per month and you will need to pay that higher rate for an extra 5 yr.... That's basically why we are on strike, we are not doing it to put people in danger and we certainly don't want to be on strike..... We are already looking at ways of taking industrial action other than strike and my personal opinion is that the strkes will finish early in the new year.

 

Yes, but things change, what about the people with private pensions?, my mother payed into the Royal Collage Of Nursing pension for decades, she won't even get her money back!!.

 

Maybe you firemen should rest on your days off:sneaky2: instead of doing second jobs, then you may not be too unfit to work to 60??

 

My father is 72 and still working as a joiner (can't afford to retire) he's up and down ladders most day.

Edited December 20, 2013 by skyhuck

[Ds Tree services]

 

Maximum respect for your farther a position I don't want to be.. Hence.

As for resting on my days of I roughly do about 25 tree jobs per year so I think I have my fair shear of rest.

 

 

Yes, but things change, what about the people with private pensions?, my mother payed into the Royal Collage Of Nursing pension for decades, she won't even get her money back!!.

 

Maybe you firemen should rest on your days off:sneaky2: instead of doing second jobs, then you may not be too unfit to work to 60??

 

My farther is 72 and still working as a joiner (can't afford to retire) he's up and down ladders most day.