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My two on a job. The nearer one is my new (to me) digger and was a real find. 10 years old but literally as near as new condition as you could get. stored in some blokes barn and only used on the odd job![ATTACH]222522[/ATTACH]

 

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The job they are on is a land improvement project I started a year ago- it used to be the most boggy ground (deep peat) you could imagine and covered with willow and gorse. Slowly getting there putting in land drains etc

 

Take heart, gorse=whins will only grow on dry ground:thumbup:, so the peat must be deep enough to be dry on top.

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Take heart, gorse=whins will only grow on dry ground:thumbup:, so the peat must be deep enough to be dry on top.

 

Funnily enough the gorse was confined to the few localised dry areas, it's been a pig of a job but I've learnt a lot about draining peat ground. I dug big open ditches when I started to just get rid of the water bogs but customer wanted them buried so had to resort to land drains which I dug 4ft down to catch the springs coming up through the bed roc/growan. Had machine bogged several times, every bucketful making the ground wobble for about a 6meter circle. Generally lay several sleepers ahead of me when digging the drains.

 

Could have done with Eddie and his LGP machine:thumbup:

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Funnily enough the gorse was confined to the few localised dry areas, it's been a pig of a job but I've learnt a lot about draining peat ground. I dug big open ditches when I started to just get rid of the water bogs but customer wanted them buried so had to resort to land drains which I dug 4ft down to catch the springs coming up through the bed roc/growan. Had machine bogged several times, every bucketful making the ground wobble for about a 6meter circle. Generally lay several sleepers ahead of me when digging the drains.

 

Could have done with Eddie and his LGP machine:thumbup:

 

 

He's not got it now mate, this arrived Friday!:thumbup:

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Oddly enough Matthew, with my limited NI experience only, I never associate bog/peat/moss with springs, in my Co. Londonderry/Antrim experience, moss only forms over areas of zero drainage, i.e. over blue clay or other impervious lower strata, not over springs, which springs, I suppose?, being mostly basic/alkali, rising from chalk or limestone beds, prevent the acidic conditions necessary for peat moss to form.

Though, derp!, we also got "spa"= ochre, acidic, I do suppose, since I got peat overlying such sources:001_rolleyes:

But, on reflection, not "springs" per se, the "spa" merely oozes out over a wider area, I associate "springs" with clearly visible "bubbeling" sources.

All a matter of nomclature I suppose.

mth

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Oddly enough Matthew, with my limited NI experience only, I never associate bog/peat/moss with springs, in my Co. Londonderry/Antrim experience, moss only forms over areas of zero drainage, i.e. over blue clay or other impervious lower strata, not over springs, which springs, I suppose?, being mostly basic/alkali, rising from chalk or limestone beds, prevent the acidic conditions necessary for peat moss to form.

Though, derp!, we also got "spa"= ochre, acidic, I do suppose, since I got peat overlying such sources:001_rolleyes:

But, on reflection, not "springs" per se, the "spa" merely oozes out over a wider area, I associate "springs" with clearly visible "bubbeling" sources.

All a matter of nomclature I suppose.

mth

 

This is interesting what you say about springs or lack of in peat. When digging the open ditches I'd keep opening up pockets of stinking water which would gush out down the trench, 12 months on many of them are still running (albeit reduced in flow) despite dry months. The trenches were dug down to the hard stuff so I think they are springs?

Funny thing is though I can put a land drain in deep with a good mass of drainage stone and pipe in Terran. But if there is a 'spring' 1 meter to one side of the drain it still remains localised boggy. The peat has almost zero permeability.

In one are next to a bridge crossing it was all so boggy I dug out all the peat down to the hard growan, put in a surface of 1ft drainage stone over which also incorporated pipes, sandwiched in Terram than replaced half the Peat. Just did that 2 days ago so will be interesting to see it on a few weeks...

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That looks fantastic Eddie. Like the 'name' too! equipped with an arsenal of apes speacialist attachments no doubt?

 

Won't you struggle without your LGP Kubota on the moorlands?

 

In a word no, it's not something I'm concentrating on. A case of they won't know what they had until they lost it. Paperwork trumps any standard of work these days.

 

 

Eddie.

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If you take a bog standard 8 tonner, what kind of job and cost would be in involved equipping it with wide tracks like you had on your Kubota, and would you say the machine also had its limitations simply because of the tracks. For example, working on rough rocky ground is it easy to damage the tracks?

Thanks

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