The great big "Profession/Professional/Professionalism" debate.

[Andy Clark]

Ok, a subject with soooooooooooo many different standpoints, views and opinions it doesn't bear trying to add them all up , and a subject that equally leads to more thread derailments than you can shake a stick at........

 

So let's have it out in the open, hopefully, once and for all.

 

Is working in the Arboriculture industry a profession?

 

Is an Arborist/Arboriculturist a professional?

 

Who wants to go first?

 

 

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[skyhuck]

Its a "Trade", we are "Trades man".

 

Some are skilled, some not so much.

 

IMO.

[Andy Clark]

Its a "Trade", we are "Trades man".

 

Some are skilled, some not so much.

 

IMO.

 

 

Ok, care to expand?

 

Or are you saying that you see the whole of the industry as a trade, and everyone within it as a tradesman?

 

 

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[WillTimberlake]

I'm not saying that we are or aren't professionals... BUT, what does it say on your business cards, emails, websites, letter heads, invoices, leaflets etc...? Does it have your name and underneath does it say 'professional tree surgeon'? Or professional arborist? Etc etc etc?

[egnsean]

I would say a trade

 

My son is an Electronics Engineer with a 1st BEng Hons degree and is considered a Professional but the local Plumber advertises as a Professional heating Engineer, i think most Professions these days would be backed by a degree.

[Andy Clark]

I would say a trade

 

 

 

My son is an Electronics Engineer with a 1st BEng Hons degree and is considered a Professional but the local Plumber advertises as a Professional heating Engineer, i think most Professions these days would be backed by a degree.

 

 

Ok, so add either the Bsc or Msc in Arboriculture and Urban Forestry into that mix, and would you still say that it's a trade?

 

 

 

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[Old Mill Tree Care]

Its a "Trade", we are "Trades man".

 

Some are skilled, some not so much.

 

IMO.

 

What he said.

 

Many people do tree work as a profession but do it in a very unprofessional manner.

In my area I estimate 80% act unprofessionally.

 

 

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[TREE-SURGEON-ESSEX]

Quote: A professional is someone who has completed formal education and training in one or more profession. The term also describes the standards of education and training that prepare members of the profession with the particular knowledge and skills necessary to perform the role of that profession.

 

Personally anyone who has received NPTC training and is competent in their line of work and carries out the work to the standards set out in bs3998 Is a professional tree surgeon.

 

I'm speaking from an arborists point of view some have degrees which cost alot of time and money but not one of my customers would care and certainly would not pay extra just because of it which renders and higher qualification imo a total waste of time and money. But some people like being taught and some like earning money

[Jesse]

Arb Association has already clarified this question , level 5 , and they promote CPD in a big way.

[skyhuck]

Arb Association has already clarified this question , level 5 , and they promote CPD in a big way.

 

Who made them the arbiter???