What's the standing value of ash and alder?

[Theocus]

Well last years prices according to the Fc were about 22 standing I believe, I'm sure they will have a generic list for 2013. Prob is landowners want more and firewood buyers want to pay cheap!!!! Rock and a hard place people!!!

As for secret emails, I still haven't got one so nobodies missing out!!!! Lol

[Lyncombe-climber]

Well I sent it to the email you gave. And yes this is a discussion forum. But the fact that most of you are all very quick to judge through what is presented in letters in front of you is quite frankly not discussion. It's pure statement of opinion.

[Chris Sheppard]

It's small stuff , 4 to 8 inch beech, cherry and ash.

 

See what you mean - more of a tidy up/re-spacing exercise, with a bit of firewood where you can, than a commercial thin.

 

Should be able to swing that on a "do it for the wood" basis and do quite well if you can keep a green wellied agent type out of the equation

Edited October 2, 2013 by Chris Sheppard

[treedweller]

I'd be offering £15-£20 p/ton for the ash standing. The way i look at it is it costs in the region of £15 p/ton to fell,convert and extract to roadside assuming it's a reasonable distance to extract. The longer the drag and the twistier the timber ie oak+beach the longer it takes to get it roadside which drives the price per ton up to produce. Subtract this from your roadside target price and you have your standing price. I'm not saying this is how others do the sums or how you should do the sums but it is how i do it

[doobin]

I'd be offering £15-£20 p/ton for the ash standing. The way i look at it is it costs in the region of £15 p/ton to fell,convert and extract to roadside assuming it's a reasonable distance to extract. The longer the drag and the twistier the timber ie oak+beach the longer it takes to get it roadside which drives the price per ton up to produce. Subtract this from your roadside target price and you have your standing price. I'm not saying this is how others do the sums or how you should do the sums but it is how i do it

 

 

Don't you allow anything for profit?

[AlexB]

if you can keep a green wellied agent type out of the equation

Amen to that!

[TimberCutterDartmoor]

Amen to that!

 

Amen amen. Yet to meet or know of an agent that gets things done any smoother, better or straighter. BIG to agents.

[treedweller]

Don't you allow anything for profit?

 

Yeah but you don't know what my target roadside price is do you??? I never said i sell the timber did i?? My roadside price is what i want to buy the timber at.

[steve collins]

not being funny but seems the landowner is the only one making a profit with these prices being mentioned!!

[Theocus]

Doing the maths on a spreadsheet taking into account the various attributing factors, variables and creating a management model, the prices being mentioned do indeed create a huge profit for the clients and a huge amount of stress to the cutters. Its not viable to carry out the work when my day to day work creates a higher revenue and income.

Running the £20 per ton through the model, the sale price would need to be 60-70 per tonne which i do not think is viable at the moment!