delivery trailers????

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hi i have just phoned vosa at bristool and you will require a taco if the gross train weight exceeds 3500 kg ,you do not need a taco if the gross train weight is below this, hope that helps. best wishes chris

 

That's great news thank you, another tick for the caddy and a smaller ifor gd 85 for example

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An interesting thread this one, but let's get back to the original question...

 

I've got an 8'x4' 2-axle Indespension trailer with mesh sides - the base trailer is essentially a plant trailer, with the meshes as an add-on they sell for it. It's excellent - light, tows well, great 'follow' on corners, and holds exactly 4m3. As long as it's well-seasoned hardwood, with 4m3 in the trailer the whole thing comes in under the 1800kg limit for my smaller towing vehicle.

 

What bothers me about it - and about a lot of the trailers in the market - is the noseweight. Many towing vehicles can take a max of 75kg, and even our Defender has a maximum of, I think, 150kg. The A-frame towbar on the trailer would account for that 75kg quite nicely, but like many trailers the axles are not central, they're slightly rearwards of centre.

 

The upshot is that if I load it evenly, the noseweight is too high - so I have to load it carefully with the heavier logs to the rear. That takes time and planning. As I unload at various drop-offs I have to re-arrange the logs each time to keep the noseweight in range.

 

So... my question is (and my steer to the OP to look out for this, too): are there any trailers in the market that don't have this axles-to-the-rear feature, and hence don't overload the towbar when the trailer is evenly loaded? Or do folks ignore the problem? Or is there another answer (like "always use a vehicle which takes a massive noseweight")?

 

I know the noseweight is essential to avoid snaking, but it would be nice to have something that I can load evenly to any depth without it increasing the noseweight!

 

I agree on the nose weight and it worries me too, nice to know you have an 8x4 with mesh sides, another tick for the caddy- the wife can keep her merc!

 

Thanks again rich:thumbup:

[timjmac]

From my experience delivering logs, I would go for a lighter trailer than the galvanised ifor Williams, something with a single axle and aluminium sides, far easier to move around in awkward driveways and remember all your return journeys the trailer is empty anyway

[derbyshiretreeservices]

Lyncombe-climber can you explain to me why you don't need a tacho in this case

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From my experience delivering logs, I would go for a lighter trailer than the galvanised ifor Williams, something with a single axle and aluminium sides, far easier to move around in awkward driveways and remember all your return journeys the trailer is empty anyway

 

Mmmm p6e? Will it carry the weight though?

[ballibeg]

 

Less than 500kg.

 

Dave

[doobin]

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Less than 500kg.

 

Dave

 

But plenty for two 0.7 cube loads of logs, otherwise known as the bulk bag.

 

A trailer like that behind something like a Pug 106 diesel is the cheapest way by far to do two bags at a time. I used to do it and I may well do it again this winter.

 

A thirty mile round trip cost about a fiver in diesel, with diesel at around £1.30 a litre. The same trip in the HiLux cost a tenner. Not to mention all the other 4x4 running costs.

 

Per mile a car and trailer is about as cheap as you can get. If anyone is starting out it's a no brainer if you already have a car. Particularly in the log game where it's often all about cost. Worry about your 'image' later when you've sold enough logs to buy big boys kit and trucks.

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But plenty for two 0.7 cube loads of logs, otherwise known as the bulk bag.

 

A trailer like that behind something like a Pug 106 diesel is the cheapest way by far to do two bags at a time. I used to do it and I may well do it again this winter.

 

A thirty mile round trip cost about a fiver in diesel, with diesel at around £1.30 a litre. The same trip in the HiLux cost a tenner. Not to mention all the other 4x4 running costs.

 

Per mile a car and trailer is about as cheap as you can get. If anyone is starting out it's a no brainer if you already have a car. Particularly in the log game where it's often all about cost. Worry about your 'image' later when you've sold enough logs to buy big boys kit and trucks.

 

I like cheap!

 

What do you recon a bulk bag weighs? Thanks rich

[doobin]

200-250KG if dry wood.

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Ok thanks doobin ps I ended up with a little komatsu pco5 in the end from a guy in bath called budd plant really pleased with the service, ter cert and the digger has been brilliant

 

I recon I might lift 1/2 a bag with it and top up by hand at that weight

 

Thanks again rich