Best/Most cost effective strapping system--for securing Billet bundles

[difflock]

Per Title.

Steel strapping = strong but expensive per m

Polypropelene = cheap, but is it strong enough

Woven Polyester = kinda in the middle

Extruded Polyester = much the same.

The Polypropleyne is MUCH cheaper, so i would probably, at least try, that system first.

[difflock]

OK Doak

Iffen I go down the woven Polyester route.

19mm wide at 600kg breaking strain.

2 straps per bundle.

1000 buckles

7 by 600mm of strapping

1 tensioner tool

About £500.00 (del)

And should do 500 No bundles (50m3/yr = 10 years)

So near enough £1.00/bundle

Hmmmm?

[AHPP]

There must be some sort of netting or strands of something available dirt cheap. Bale stuff maybe. Use like plastic packing wrap, giving a few wraps to get the tension.

Almost certainly best done stacking the billets vertically of course.

 

 

Rotate the package:

 

 

Or rotate the wrap around the package:

 

 

Lower tech is to just walk around the package but that gets old fast.

 

 

I'm not totally convinced by the billet system btw. Unless you're bundling to load into kilns or something, I can't see the advantage over making chunks which can be scooped in loader buckets or moved on conveyor belts/elevators (where orientation doesn't matter). Sure, you could stack high but realistically does that outweigh the outrageous rehandling?

Please feel free to put me right. I'd be interested to hear what you like about the system.

Edited May 15, 2013 by AHPP

[Woodworks]

Is there any way to use the heavy duty baler twine? If only doing 50m3 per year I would have thought keeping it simple might be a good plan. For the knot could you tie a loop in in end and then feed other end through this loop and use a lorry drivers hitch? I can't tie this knot but have watched guys who know what their at and the get things pretty tight.

[difflock]

I thought I had already confessed to being a prefectionist:blushing:

Anyway I had already noted that Posch use what appears to be heavy "baler" twine, or what is effectively light loose spun polypropolene rope.

I will probably resort to 6mm/8mm blue rope. (Which would be a few times reusuable)

With a farmers hitch ("thrown" on with a flick of the wrist) which will allow me to winch the rope drum tight. (Tied down many a high load of baled straw with that one, Oh aar boy!)

After pre-consolidating the bundle.

Hmmmmmm?

Now thinking how I can use the 1 tonne capacity winch on the splitter to tighten up the bundle prior to tying. (Since using the splitter hydraulics would be such an OBVIOUS sensible method)

(An I am tinking I know)

A blinking good job this is only a hobby for me:001_rolleyes:

Far far better than ANY trainset.

cheers all

Marcus

PS

The plastic wrap wont let the bundle breath.

Nor is it practical to rotate the bundle on its end to wrap with silage/straw bale netting.

Which is also surprisingly expensive.

Nowt made from oil is now cheap.

Sigh

Which is why I am burning timber.

1995 28 sec kero 16p a litre

but if money "doubles" every 10 year = 32 p/l = 64p/l (near enough 20 years)

Edited May 16, 2013 by difflock

[Woodworks]

"Far far better than ANY trainset."

 

Couldn't agree more

[Woodworks]

How about using gripples and the tightening tool. Not cheap but probably reusable and generally handy if you have some other fencing jobs. £220 gets you 250 gripples and the tool.

[difflock]

A "bugger" storing the 3mm/4mm plain wire for re-use.

Wire also expensive.

Blue rope 6mm/220m/550kg breaking strain = £10.85

Reuse once = 25p/bundle (2 loops per bundle)

Now I am searching for "gripples" for blue rope:001_huh:

PS

I found this very good site/supplier

Ratchet Straps and Webbing Assemblies

[Cosmiccrofter]

I'm not convinced about the billeting system either, but what about using cheap ratchet straps, some thing like this [ame=http://www.amazon.co.uk/DOWN-RATCHET-STRAPS-15FT-PACK/dp/B004SH2GE4]TIE DOWN RATCHET STRAPS 1" X 15FT 4 PACK: Amazon.co.uk: Car & Motorbike[/ame]

 

That would cost around £4 per billet, say £200 for your 50 billets, AND totally re-useable!

[difflock]

I would query the "re-usability" both intuitivetly and after reading the comments.

Also no rated breaking strain, "S" hooks peel open very easy (from prev exp)

Thanks though

M