Safe contractor accreditation

[High Scale]

It's a whole new level of business and that's all in my respectful view.

 

Obviously I don't mean the AA accreditation, that's a different kettle of fish.

Edited April 18, 2013 by High Scale
Added respectful.

[AA Teccie (Paul)]

It's a whole new level of business and that's all in my respectful view.

 

Obviously I don't mean the AA accreditation, that's a different kettle of fish.

 

Very well put, the first bit...and the second bit of course .

 

I guess you have a choice, if you wanna do commercial stuff you have to play by the(ir) rules if not stick to domestic.

 

Cheers..

Paul

[High Scale]

For the record I am Chas accredited.

 

[Robert_S]

Mmmm, I can understand why you say that but these schemes (n therein lies part of the problem as there are multiples of them...BUT only one ArbAC scheme:biggrin:) do highlight the importance of H&S compliance and improve awarness and, in turn, the culture within a business...where/if it needs to be of course.

 

Obvioulsy, in turn, they also improve your compliance and help you better fill your duties under H&S law as an employer (of both PAYE staff AND none PAYE staff) which is a good thing and protects you...and hopefully makes you sleep easier at night...with an accompnaying 'hot toddy' of course.)

 

They also present an opportuntiy perhaps to demonstarte that you are not a disreputable contractor, as they wouldn't apply...nor comply.

 

Hence I think they do have a place in the contracting industry and, 'luv em r ate em', they're here to stay.

 

There, r u convinced?

 

Cheers..

paul

 

No.

 

The aaac has its place and is a different scheme than the chas,safe contractor types out there, It has made very little difference to my working practices as I was safe before the accreditation, just the same way if I was an unsafe contractor and paid a consultant to get me the accreditation my work practises would still be unsafe as its just a box ticking exercise.

For it to be done right you should be assessed as you do on the aa scheme, only then would you really earn it through proper practise ( but no one would do it,especially in Scotland:001_smile:)

So my comment still stands on it being a money making concern because they don't care who gets it as long as they can supply the paperwork.

[High Scale]

Applause.

[Stephen Blair]

If at the end of all these acrreditations, the successful contractor was to receive a' Pay Me Now ' certificate, and a Bank card from the government, which is handed to the site agent at the end of the contract and then the Site agent MUST then takes out a payment machine, swipes it and put the money straight into the contractors account, shakes hands then sign me up for the courses!!!

 

There is absolutely no reason why this should not be compulsory !!

 

The contractor has proved he is fully insured, experienced, safe and legitimate before receiving his special Card.

 

There is no better motivator for high standards and professionalism than money. Instant rewards are what we are taught as kids, do a good job, get a biscuit!

So go on Safe Contractor Accreditation, give the guys a biscuit, don't take it:biggrin:

[Spruce Pirate]

do a good job, get a biscuit!

 

I like that idea.

 

In all seriousness I think we would all be more willing to sign up to these things if we felt there was a bit more reward to them. The benefits of "it means you comply with H&S", "it will allow you to stay on our approved list" make it seem as though you're having to do it just to stand still. The "you need it if you want to work for us" seems more like a threat than an incentive. More carrots, less sticks makes a lot of sense to me.

[Hodge]

I am being told by a client ( camping and caravanning club) that I need to join constructionline to carry on getting work from them, I do maybe £500 a year work for them. I contacted constructionline and found its £90 + VAT to join and I have to go through SSIP?? Whatever that is?? Like Robert has said it just seems another way of taking money off me. Any help would be appreciated.

 

 

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[WorcsWuss]

I am being told by a client ( camping and caravanning club) that I need to join constructionline to carry on getting work from them, I do maybe £500 a year work for them. I contacted constructionline and found its £90 + VAT to join and I have to go through SSIP?? Whatever that is?? Like Robert has said it just seems another way of taking money off me. Any help would be appreciated.

 

 

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One of the local authorities we worked for told us the same.

Told them to get stuffed!

[gensetsteve]

I hate the whole money for medals culture that has been created by a redundant unskilled army of pen pushers.