Silly price HAVE A GUESS

[coleman]

But was he found guilty of anything? As a private individual, the ability to check on somebody's 'qualifications' is very limited, especially in a less well-known trade such as Arb (eg everybody knows that gas installers have to be Gas safe registered but how many people know about CS units?) and so the scenario you are talking about is highly unlikely. Leading cases on this are Ferguson v Walsh and Fairchild v Glenhaven Funeral Services Ltd.

It was told this by my NPTC instructor, who used it as one example of why we have to hold these tickets. I think the vicar was negligent as he didnt even check the guy was compitent for the job. The jist i got was that if he had been doing it for free (not taking the wood) he would'nt of faced any charges. sorry for being vague i was told this a very long time ago. But if you get someone in to do a job that requires certification by law like using a chainsaw on a professional basis and things go horribly wrong then i believe you (and the guy you got in) would be negligent.

[Mark Bolam]

What it boils down to is you need to actively avoid the sort of customer who ONLY cares about the lowest possible price and nothing else.

 

Show your tickets, show your insurance documents. If they aren't interested so be it. Plenty of people are.

[felixthelogchopper]

I will read the other 2 cases tomorrow Felix. I'm sure you know your stuff.

 

They make good reading. Also have a look at Occupier's Liability Act 1957. Just remember to note the difference between Mrs Miggins and Global Corp in relevant duty of care in ensuring that a contractor is competent. As for knowing my stuff, it has been a while since I read up on Occupier's Liabiity so a bit of revision was needed.

[felixthelogchopper]

What it boils down to is you need to actively avoid the sort of customer who ONLY cares about the lowest possible price and nothing else.

 

Show your tickets, show your insurance documents. If they aren't interested so be it. Plenty of people are.

 

Best comment so far.

[felixthelogchopper]

It was told this by my NPTC instructor, who used it as one example of why we have to hold these tickets. I think the vicar was negligent as he didnt even check the guy was compitent for the job. The jist i got was that if he had been doing it for free (not taking the wood) he would'nt of faced any charges. sorry for being vague i was told this a very long time ago. But if you get someone in to do a job that requires certification by law like using a chainsaw on a professional basis and things go horribly wrong then i believe you (and the guy you got in) would be negligent.

 

If the guy doing the job represented himself as competent then for a private individual to check further would not be seen as necessary and so you would not be negligent. For a Local Authority or a contractor, more stringent enquiries would be required, which is why they ask for copies of tickets etc.

[coleman]

If the guy doing the job represented himself as competent then for a private individual to check further would not be seen as necessary and so you would not be negligent. For a Local Authority or a contractor, more stringent enquiries would be required, which is why they ask for copies of tickets etc.

ah, yes. I think in the case of the vicar, he was seen as acting for an organisation (the church). theres my arguement out the window with homeowners.

[felixthelogchopper]

ah, yes. I think in the case of the vicar, he was seen as acting for an organisation (the church). theres my arguement out the window with homeowners.

 

To misquote somebody, the law is in the detail.

[lyons e]

What it boils down to is you need to actively avoid the sort of customer who ONLY cares about the lowest possible price and nothing else.

 

Show your tickets, show your insurance documents. If they aren't interested so be it. Plenty of people are.

 

This is true what u saying . But it seems u got firm coming out the wood work thes day, and in the current clement most private work are only interest in the best price, I've lost work because I won't drop the prices a lot of these guy haven't got ticket s , insurance but there stil taking work that al guys with over heads can't compete with

 

 

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[treequip]

What it boils down to is you need to actively avoid the sort of customer who ONLY cares about the lowest possible price and nothing else.

 

Show your tickets, show your insurance documents. If they aren't interested so be it. Plenty of people are.

 

Punters care about three things,

 

1. Price

2. Price

3. Price

 

In that order

[treequip]

ah, yes. I think in the case of the vicar, he was seen as acting for an organisation (the church). theres my arguement out the window with homeowners.

 

I will take that as an apology then?