a nice cut for hung trees

[Rich Rule]

I had heard of similar from some older dudes. The coos bag name came to me after reading Jerry's Fundamentals.

[dadio]

Have you ever used it?

Its a good cut...

[Rich Rule]

I use it all the time when needed, have done for about 8-9 years now.

[dadio]

if you used it one of your training sessions... would they fail you?

 

Who makes the decisions on a cut like that? How does a cut become approved?

[Marc Lewis]

The coos bay cut is an approved felling cut in the UK

[silky fox]

I googled it but cant find it...is that the correct spelling...marc or rich?

[Reddog]

I googled it but cant find it...is that the correct spelling...marc or rich?

 

That Coos Bay felling cut again!!

[dadio]

Is it approved for use in the tree as well?... We don't have much need for it as a falling cut, more so in the tree (in east coast suburban settings).. Though I don't use it for either anymore..

[Spruce Pirate]

Back to the point... its amazing to me how arborists spend so much time and $ improving their climbing techniques, yet so little time focusing on saw handling.. Saw handling is a big part of the game, and learning to shave seconds off every cut really adds up.. And more importantly, good cutting skills often preclude the need to climb and rig, taking the entire crew out of potentially dangerous situations.

 

This I really do agree with. Sometimes far too much time can be wasted over-thinking and over complicating things when a simple fell is the obvious answer.

 

Never been taught a Cooze Bay cut, only ever heard of them on tinterweb. Don't know if they are approved here or not. Looks similar, in some forms, to what I'd call a double V, which is a nice cut for heavy leaners.

 

How and why things are approved for teaching in this country is a mystery to me, perhaps some of the trainers on here could give us some info. In honesty my suspicion is that there is too much theoretical input and not enough practical input.

[dadio]

The fact that dadio gives clearly states that he knows exactly where the tree will go , what will happen and has been so bold as to say that its safe and then goes on to give the impression that he feel his way is safer than the standard method

 

That is exactly what I AM saying.. everyone that has called this cut unpredictable must not have used it... I have used it over 1000 times... the but always drops straight down and slightly in towards the supporting tree... UNLESS the tree is top heavy, which is extremely rare scenario. So it may look scary, and even FEEL scary when making the cut, but it is safe!.. just because this is a cut you have not been taught or shown before does not make it unreliable... just unfamiliar.. how can you cast such judgments without trying it yourself?

 

When I call it safer, I mean in the largest possible sense... someone shared a story of a death resulting from the cutter trying to fall the supporting tree.. If he had been familiar with the plunged vertical snap cut, he would have had another option.. perhaps he had access to a winch or equipment that could have pulled the tree free.. maybe not... either way he made a choice that cost him his life... if he had known of another choice that worked as well and as reliable as this cut, he would have most likely been home for dinner..

 

So the question is not.. is this cut safer than textbook methods (which I could argue it is). the real question should be.. is this cut safer than other options in real world scenarios... try it sometime and let us know..

 

Thanks