Environment Agency madness i guess!!

[David oakman]

There was article in a mag about a year ago, a wildlife trust were working in a wood and they were using a chipper as woodchip rots in a few months brash takes years. anyway there is a very rare toadstall which has not been seen for years called the magpie toadstall and it came up all over the woodchip piles as man with his chipper had reproduced the deadwood habitat missing in a lot of woodlands.

[Andy R]

on a side note, that avatar is hilarious...

 

 

[Nomad]

There was article in a mag about a year ago, a wildlife trust were working in a wood and they were using a chipper as woodchip rots in a few months brash takes years. anyway there is a very rare toadstall which has not been seen for years called the magpie toadstall and it came up all over the woodchip piles as man with his chipper had reproduced the deadwood habitat missing in a lot of woodlands.

 

Is it magic? Because there's a rare psychoactive fungi that "only appears where the woodsman have been working" and now I might have a name for it:001_smile:

[Johny Walker]

Is it magic? Because there's a rare psychoactive fungi that "only appears where the woodsman have been working" and now I might have a name for it:001_smile:

 

can u eat it ?

[Nomad]

can u eat it ?

 

The bloke that wrote the book seemed to enjoy it!!!

[Mr Ed]

Why chip it? because a litre of derv will create over 4000kwh of usable biomass energy. Thats a pretty good conversion rate. A 360 will not create much compaction, as its overall ground presure is quite low. Shears will do a really neat cut if the knives are kept nice and sharp.

[Johny Walker]

The bloke that wrote the book seemed to enjoy it!!!

yep like wise will give it a miss till the tasting has been varefied

[Andy Collins]

I'd say 80% of my jobs are burn on sites now, I keep chipping to a minimum. On coppicing work, burning is the traditional way of the waste management. On other jobs, no more than 10tons of waste can be burned in a day, must not cause black smoke, must not create a statutory nuisance. You cannot use diesel, tyres, old carpets etc to light the fire or to get it going. As far as the environmental impact of burning over chippers, well, you burn diesel to get the chipper to site, burn diesel to produce the chip, burn diesel to remove chipper and chip from site. If you burn, you have none of these issues, of course, those who manufacture, sell or hire woodchippers are always going to shout that their way is best.

Apart from the issues of environmental damage, how about the manual handling aspect, a fire can be felled onto, repeatedly all day, which reduces workers fatigue, it disposes of the waste as quickly if not quicker than a chipper, and if used responsibly, is safer.

[TimberCutterDartmoor]

The carbon from the tree is from what 60/80 years ago, the carbon from the diesel in your chipper is from millions of years ago.

 

If you chip the tree, as the chip rots it will release the carbon any way.

 

Leave the oil in the ground and the carbon will stay there.

 

They are right.

 

Lifecycle analysis would probably include the energy input into manufacturing the chipper as well. Would still chip it though - simply more practical IMO. Mass emissions from burning the wood will be considerably higher than the diesel exhaust though.

Edited January 19, 2009 by TimberCutterDartmoor
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[Andy Collins]

An example of the stupidity of our country, I was working in a SSSI last summer, we had to chip all waste and dump it in heaps, the EA working along the river bank had blooming great fires on the same site, in the middle of the tourist season! One rule for one etc