Potential ANCIENT tree removal

[Sciadopitys]

Here are a couple of pics of a Beech i dismantled with similar wood patterns! Big but nowhere near as big as the tree felled in this thread!

[Ross Smith]

That looks very similar to mine.

Did you not ID the fungus ?

[Big 'Ammer]

Here's a beech with meripilus I felled a fortnight since.

 

Similar patterns. The decay in the centre is from a cavity on the trunk higher up.

[Ross Smith]

Surprised about no comments from tony&co regarding the stump decay......

[Ross Smith]

Still surprised.........

[raafbeard]

looked fairly well gone to me and in a bad location for a tree with that many issues.....

[David Humphries]

Surprised about no comments from tony&co regarding the stump decay......

 

Still surprised.........

 

I believe the beech could have been retained (with a substantial reduction)

 

 

 

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[treeseer]

I believe the beech could have been retained (with a substantial reduction).

 

It appears that a light to moderate reduction would have sufficed. A lot goes into these decisions, but mycophobia should not be a factor. Discoloration is not decay, as attested by reports of how hard the wood was. These fungi seldom move fast--who here has measured the rate of rot from merip et al? Sometimes they do not move at all!

 

Inside trees, water flows up, through tubes and channels in the wood. Sap flows down, carrying sugar made in the leaves to the lower trunk and woody roots, to be metabolized and used for vital processes such as defense against the spread of tissue death from dryness or dysfunction or decay, which is the degradation of wood by microorganisms. I

 

Trees have been defending themselves against decay for as long as there have been trees. This defensive process is called Compartmentalization of Decay (/and Disease and /Dryness) in Trees, CODIT. As trees mature, the buttresses at the base expand upward and outward. This expansion denies oxygen to the taproot, causing it to wither and die. Decay naturally moves up into the inactive cells in the inner heartwood of the trunk. This interior decay is common in mature oak trees.

 

Expansion of the buttresses can also squeeze, crack, wound and weaken tissue in the concave areas—“sinuses” --between the buttresses. (Damage from this “included bark” folding inward is similar to the cracks and weakness found in codominant branch unions.) Opportunistic microbial or insect activity is commonly found in sinuses. Since the buttresses are the primary supporting structures of the tree, sinus problems are typically not structural problems, unless decay extends deep into buttress roots with no adaptive growth.

 

Several urban trees that measure over 80% hollow are being managed in the USA. (hayes) Many trees in Europe stand on solid-but-thin shells, at age 600+. Periodic pruning reduces the load and risk. (pfisterer) Sprouts arise on interior of the crowns, creating a rejuvenated crown and much less impact from storm loading. 15% off the ends has been shown to increase stability by 50%. (goodfellow, Wessolly)

[sloth]

15% off the ends has been shown to increase stability by 50%. (goodfellow, Wessolly)

 

That's an impressive figure. Where can I find the source for this? Do you know how the stability was measured, and what measurement the 15% refers to?

Thank you...

[RobArb]

It appears that a light to moderate reduction would have sufficed. A lot goes into these decisions, but mycophobia should not be a factor. Discoloration is not decay, as attested by reports of how hard the wood was. These fungi seldom move fast--who here has measured the rate of rot from merip et al? Sometimes they do not move at all!

 

Inside trees, water flows up, through tubes and channels in the wood. Sap flows down, carrying sugar made in the leaves to the lower trunk and woody roots, to be metabolized and used for vital processes such as defense against the spread of tissue death from dryness or dysfunction or decay, which is the degradation of wood by microorganisms. I

 

Trees have been defending themselves against decay for as long as there have been trees. This defensive process is called Compartmentalization of Decay (/and Disease and /Dryness) in Trees, CODIT. As trees mature, the buttresses at the base expand upward and outward. This expansion denies oxygen to the taproot, causing it to wither and die. Decay naturally moves up into the inactive cells in the inner heartwood of the trunk. This interior decay is common in mature oak trees.

 

Expansion of the buttresses can also squeeze, crack, wound and weaken tissue in the concave areas—“sinuses” --between the buttresses. (Damage from this “included bark” folding inward is similar to the cracks and weakness found in codominant branch unions.) Opportunistic microbial or insect activity is commonly found in sinuses. Since the buttresses are the primary supporting structures of the tree, sinus problems are typically not structural problems, unless decay extends deep into buttress roots with no adaptive growth.

 

Several urban trees that measure over 80% hollow are being managed in the USA. (hayes) Many trees in Europe stand on solid-but-thin shells, at age 600+. Periodic pruning reduces the load and risk. (pfisterer) Sprouts arise on interior of the crowns, creating a rejuvenated crown and much less impact from storm loading. 15% off the ends has been shown to increase stability by 50%. (goodfellow, Wessolly)

 

You forgot D=dysfunction:001_tt2:

 

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